QQ river fold, think its right but feels so dirty
 

Villain is playing 26/20ish. Not much history between us, decent amount of 3 betting but no big pots between us yet.

I have some datamined stats on him from who knows when and he used to play 16/12 over a small sample.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,594.25
BB: $677.00
UTG: $1,267.00
MP: $446.50
Hero (CO): $503.00
BTN: $394.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $16.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50.00</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $34.00

Flop: ($106) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $65.00</font>, MP calls $65.00

Turn: ($236) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($236) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $160.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $331.50</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $727.50 ($3 Rake)

Re: QQ river fold, think its right but feels so dirty
 

Looks good. He would have to be pretty ballsy/stupid to c/r bluff that river with so little money behind, and I really don't think he'd value raise worse.

Re: QQ river fold, think its right but feels so dirty
 

yea i dont think i would fold,

not really a lover of post flop play,
Id bet more on flop, and fire turn.

The only reason id check turn would be to induce a bluff, so when he comes over the top im not going anywhere.

Re: QQ river fold, think its right but feels so dirty
 

good fold, nice play by villain imo

Re: QQ river fold, think its right but feels so dirty
 

you showed weakness, you might have induced a bluff, you're getting great odds.

have to call

(also this is a pretty silly spot to c/r a huge hand)

Re: QQ river fold, think its right but feels so dirty
 

i dont like the fold at all. I feel if he had AA/KK+ ud know about it before thsi river

Re: QQ river fold, think its right but feels so dirty
 

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you showed weakness, you might have induced a bluff, you're getting great odds.

have to call

(also this is a pretty silly spot to c/r a huge hand)

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How many made hands does villain call flop with that are now better to turn themselves into bluffs on river though?

I do agree with this being silly spot for villain to cr a big hand, unless he thinks I have pure air and might take one last stab on river and he can pick up that bet. But that will very rarely be the case.

I don't think he ever has kk/aa here, main problem with fold and why it keeps bugging me is I'm putting him almost entirely on one exact hand.

Re: QQ river fold, think its right but feels so dirty
 

how are you even thinking about this hand getting 6/1

the only hand he can have is 10 10.

he doesn't have AA or KK and he doesn't raise and call a re-raise pre with A-4

call. if u fold... gimme ur sn

Re: QQ river fold, think its right but feels so dirty
 

I cannot imagine checking the turn here.

Re: QQ river fold, think its right but feels so dirty
 

get it in on the turn.

i love villain's line with any hand beating yours, but it would be a really sick bluff here and i'm not sure what worse hand he could play that way since hearts prolly jam the flop and he can hardly expect you to fold a made hand here... i think the fold is likely a good one but really tough getting these odds ofc. i'd look him up for peace of mind but expect to lose in this spot.