NL25 - aggrowar
 

Please comment my line here - I am not sure I like it. Usually I will fold to the flop bet if it is any larger. Is this total spew???

This guy (regular) was 25/20-ish and I felt he squeezed here + I like my position and stacks preflop....

Poker Stars
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.10/$0.25 Blinds
4 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

<font color="black">SB: $30.50</font>
<font color="black">BB: $41.35</font>
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $26.80</font>
BTN: $11.75

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.80</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $0.70, <font color="red">BB raises to $2.50</font>, Hero calls $1.70, SB calls $1.70

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($7.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4, SB folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($15.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14.70, BB folds</font>

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

Raise flop.

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

I don't like it. What are you trying to represent?

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

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I don't like it. What are you trying to represent?

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set obv

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

For the flop I would've raised him. For the turn the way you played it I would've taken the free card, but I don't mind making an attempt at it by making this play, he could easily have AK, AQ type hands.

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

i think i prefer either raising the flop or calling and checking behind on the turn. If you had air i like the turn bet.

but you have a very nice draw. i'd rather just see a free river, maybe take it away on the river if you miss

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

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I don't like it. What are you trying to represent?

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Dude, he has the best hand.

Hold'em Simulation
39,600 trials (Exhaustive)
board: Th4s3s
Hand Pot equity
6s7s 50.85%
AA-JJ,AK 49.15%

Edit: to say I dont really like hero's line either, he should definitely raise flop

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

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I don't like it. What are you trying to represent?

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Dude, he has the best hand.

Hold'em Simulation
39,600 trials (Exhaustive)
board: Th4s3s
Hand Pot equity
6s7s 50.85%
AA-JJ,AK 49.15%

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which is why a flop raise is sexy! but on the turn his equity drops so much.. hes a 60/40dog to just 22

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

Not after turn really. So I guess those saying raise flop are right for several reasons...

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

65,565,746 games 33.484 secs 1,958,121 games/sec

Board: Th 4s 3s Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.389% 31.48% 00.00% 20638524 0.00 { 7s6s }
Hand 1: 68.611% 68.81% 00.00% 45113181 0.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

One more thing:

Raise the flop - pot it or shove?

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

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One more thing:

Raise the flop - pot it or shove?

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I'd pot and call a shove.

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

Ty all. I suck at sc:s.
and at being funny or witty

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

I am usually on the other end of this line a lot. With the built in outs and an already huge pot, I think its good as long as villains hand distribution doesnt put him on an set or overpair more than Ax.

Looks like villain maybe has AK? The only thing is that the hand distribution means that you are not folding AA,KK,QQ,JJ,TT. So either villain has Ax which missed or you are getting reraised all in.

Does anyone not like this based on the possible reraising hand distribution of BB?

Greg

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

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I don't like it. What are you trying to represent?

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Dude, he has the best hand.

Hold'em Simulation
39,600 trials (Exhaustive)
board: Th4s3s
Hand Pot equity
6s7s 50.85%
AA-JJ,AK 49.15%

Edit: to say I dont really like hero's line either, he should definitely raise flop

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What about when you put TT into the range. He is already behind then.

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

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I am usually on the other end of this line a lot. With the built in outs and an already huge pot, I think its good as long as villains hand distribution doesnt put him on an set or overpair more than Ax.

Looks like villain maybe has AK? The only thing is that the hand distribution means that you are not folding AA,KK,QQ,JJ,TT. So either villain has Ax which missed or you are getting reraised all in.

Does anyone not like this based on the possible reraising hand distribution of BB?

Greg

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As always fold equity is part and parcel of the goodness that is combo draws.
If we raise the flop and villain folds his overcards, great.
If he considers folding his overpair, fantastic. (not likely but...)
If he doesnt fold, we are in decent shape against his range.

Look what happens when we put TT in his range:

Hold'em Simulation
42,570 trials (Exhaustive)
board: Th4s3s
Hand Pot equity
6s7s 49.63%
AA-TT,AK 50.37%

Virtually nothing. Raising this flop against his range is mandatory IMO.

Edit: If we pot the flop, and villain shoves TT+ we can safely call with the money already in the pot.

Hold'em Simulation
26,730 trials (Exhaustive)
board: Th4s3s
Hand Pot equity
6s7s 44.15%
AA-TT 55.85%

Re: NL25 - aggrowar
 

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I am usually on the other end of this line a lot.

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Just something to think about, especially when we are playing the same people over and over. Below is the entire range I would b/3b on the flop in this situation. A TAG holding an overpair is in serious trouble.

Hold'em Simulation
330,660 trials (Exhaustive)
board: Th4s3s
Hand Pot equity
6s7s,TT,44,33,5s6s,Ts9s,AsKs 72.06%
AA-TT 27.94%