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RobMcB 11-13-2007 02:09 AM

$2.75 NLTRN tough call vs. possible tiltmonkey
 
Villain was reraising %8.33 out of the BB (I never limp my SB HU). I doubled through him on the previous hand, so there was a definite possibility of him tilting.
I decided I was probably behind a medium PP and added some EV considering the possibility of this being a monkey-tilt move by villain.
Do you guys routinely make this call? Never make this call?
Converters being a problem so I'll do this by hand:

NLDONKAMENT $2.50 + $0.25
Hero: 1260
Villain 740

Blinds 5/10

Holecards: HERO A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

HERO: posts SB of 5. Villain posts BB of 10. Hero <font color="red">raises to 30</font>. Villain <font color="red">reraises 710 ALLIN </font>. Hero <font color="#666666"> Calls 710 </font>

ukdentisto32 11-13-2007 02:14 AM

Re: $2.75 NLTRN tough call vs. possible tiltmonkey
 
i make this call EVERY time

Moonrocket 11-13-2007 04:44 AM

Re: $2.75 NLTRN tough call vs. possible tiltmonkey
 
Although this is just the beginning of the tourney I would make this call everytime. In any case, was he on monkey tilt or not, I would exclude monster hands that severely cripple you(AA,KK,QQ)from his range. I believe that with the hands that beat you he'd try to get a call with.

waxhax0rs 11-13-2007 04:47 AM

Re: $2.75 NLTRN tough call vs. possible tiltmonkey
 
Wow, you're actually pretty deep (what site is this on?). But I'd probably still always call this, especially given the circumstances and the fact that it's a 2.75 game (people are really bad...).

RobMcB 11-13-2007 06:47 AM

Re: $2.75 NLTRN tough call vs. possible tiltmonkey
 
Yes, we are deep. If you're an ROI-whore like me you will like playing on Everest. All donkaments start at 100BBS and the blinds go up every 10 minutes. The blind-up increments are small:
Starting 1000

5-10
10-20
15-30
20-40
30-60
50-100
75-150 etc... you get the idea. Basically you're getting ALOT of poker. For their large buyin MTT's you start with 1500 and the blind levels are extended to at least 15mins, maybe more, can't remember right now.
UB has a slower structure, but, F-UB.

HokieGreg 11-13-2007 06:56 AM

Re: $2.75 NLTRN tough call vs. possible tiltmonkey
 
wow a good player could have a 40%+ roi with that structure lol

hra146 11-13-2007 10:12 AM

Re: $2.75 NLTRN tough call vs. possible tiltmonkey
 
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wow a good player could have a 40%+ roi with that structure lol

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yeah, with the same thought I started playing on one of those sites with a similiar structure.
While its true that you get a sick edge out of it vs. individual opponents I did not really find it more profitable than on say stars.

Matches can easily take up to 30 mins. + and for the rare times you encounter a solid villain who refuses to flip you are wasting a LOT of time.

And it also puts you on lifetilt when you lose a 40 mins. match vs an uberfish cause in the first SAGE hand hes holding JJ and slowrolls you (cause hes seriously thinking about folding 7 bbs deep).

emKay 11-13-2007 01:24 PM

Re: $2.75 NLTRN tough call vs. possible tiltmonkey
 
Fold prepreflop (don't play a HU game with 10% rake)

RobMcB 11-13-2007 06:49 PM

Re: $2.75 NLTRN tough call vs. possible tiltmonkey
 
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And it also puts you on lifetilt when you lose a 40 mins. match vs an uberfish cause in the first SAGE hand hes holding JJ and slowrolls you (cause hes seriously thinking about folding 7 bbs deep).

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Fold prepreflop (don't play a HU game with 10% rake)

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Even though I know you're right, I still cling to the silly hope that "well, if they're willing to pay this much rake, than they must be the worst fish ever, so it will even out."
I like to conveniently forget the fact that since I'm paying that rake, maybe I'm the biggest fish ever.


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