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ohioguy218 11-25-2007 10:28 PM

Do College Admissions Essays really matter?
 
Ok ... So I've been writing admissions essays for the past few weeks and I'm starting to stress out. My question is this: Do they really even matter???

I have a 4.0 gpa, a 35 ACT, and a load of ECs ... but my essays aren't really imaginative or great ... just solid and well-written

So, I know some of you guys go to pretty selective colleges ... how were your essays? Great, average, poor?

I'm especially interested in Duke and Northwestern ... Do I have to write great essays ... or am I fine with ordinary, boring ones?

surftheiop 11-26-2007 12:28 AM

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write great essays and you still might not get into northwestern

EvilSteve 11-26-2007 01:26 AM

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I think "imaginative" and "great" are not things you should even be shooting for. You're not trying to create a brilliant work of art here. Solid and absolutely conventional and very difficult for anybody to pick apart or criticize in any way would seem ideal. Sounds like you'll do just fine.

LetsHugItOut 11-26-2007 01:39 AM

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Not a direct answer, but: You've put in a lot of work over the last four years to position yourself well for getting into college -- why not knock yourself out for the next month, write a couple of great essays, and feel as good as possible about your application?

Essays might not be the most important piece of an application, but they are important. And I disagree with the poster above -- "imaginative" and "great" ARE things you should be shooting for in your essays. Admissions officers aren't looking to pick apart or criticize your essays -- they're looking to get a sense of the student. The only two real objectives of admissions essays, IMO, are 1) to reveal something about the student and 2) to stand out.

If your essay topics are open-ended (like the common app was when I applied in 2005), a good route is to pick a quirky interest of yours and write about it. The quirkiness will stand out; that it's an interest will reveal something about you.

Ganjasaurus Rex 11-26-2007 01:45 AM

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My college essay consisted of the following:

"I want to go to your school. If you reject my application, i'll be forced to go elsewhere. Do you really want to hurt my feelings like that?"

I got into every school i applied.

Of course, my GPA and SAT scores probably had a little something to do with it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Moral of the story? If you think you're borderline, then spend a lot of time on your essay?

lippy 11-26-2007 03:36 AM

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My advice;

You're worrying about it too much. You're obviously very smart and if you put forth a few hours, you will write something that is definitely acceptable, probably very good.

Wyman 11-26-2007 11:05 AM

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Admissions essays matter a ton if you're a borderline admission. They also matter a ton if you're applying for scholarships.

1) Don't get too cocky. Remember that there are a lot more high schools than colleges, and a lot of kids who are the best in their class are going to be applying. If it's a school you can even remotely believe that you might not get into, spend serious time on your essay.

2) Your "load of ECs" should provide you with some fodder for your essay(s). Have you ever done volunteer work? My eagle scout project (and essay I wrote about it) got me a postcard from my admissions officer at Duke saying how impressed she was by my project, and 2 weeks later I get a letter saying I was one of Duke's top 50 applicants and inviting me down there to interview for a full scholarship (this is a solid brag, but I didn't end up getting the scholarship, and I went elsewhere). The moral of this story is that although I'm not a great writer, the content of my essay helped me get an opportunity for some serious money (obv my resume didn't hurt).

3) As a senior, I was on the committee for the scholarship I had. As such, I read a ton of essays/applications for the scholarship. The poster above hit the nail on the head. When reading your essay, we want to learn something about you, and you want to stand out. You want me to think "Yeah, this kid would make a great addition to our community. We'd be proud to have him/her as one of our alumni."

GR is probably right. If your grades and everything are solid, you'll probably get in somewhere. But times are changing. With grade inflation running rampant, in addition to good grades, colleges are looking for well-rounded people who will bring something unique to the school. Your essay(s) should convince them that you're it.

Where are you applying, btw?

ohioguy218 11-26-2007 05:00 PM

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Duke, Northwestern, Vandy, Yale, UVA, Emory, and a few less selective schools

chisness 11-26-2007 06:13 PM

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write great essays and you still might not get into northwestern

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I go to Northwestern and at least from my high school anyone with those stats was auto-in. My essays were definitely pretty mediocre. NU has a very high admit rate.

You'll need very good essays to get into HYPS, MC, and you're probably not auto in at some of the lower ivies either. You can probably get into anywhere NU or "worse" without anything too great though.

Wyman 11-26-2007 06:18 PM

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Yale, Duke, and UVA are tougher to get into than the others.

Focus on those essays and try to use them for the other schools if possible. Get an English teacher (creative writing if you have one) or two to critique your essay before you submit.

It's understandable to get a case of "senioritis", but that should wait until after admissions. And you should expect to get over it real quick when next fall rolls around -- that is, of course, if you care what you get in college.

Best of luck, OP.

untadam 11-26-2007 07:07 PM

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If you think you're borderline, then spend a lot of time on your essay

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ADLinden 11-26-2007 07:25 PM

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with a 4.0 and a 35 ACT you shouldn't have a problem imo, but still write good essays

surftheiop 11-26-2007 08:56 PM

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What year are you?

I heard somewhere NU's admittance rate halved or quarted or something in last year or two. Also i would agree about the auto-in if its early decision.

ohioguy218 11-26-2007 09:10 PM

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Afraid it's regular decision, but I did an overnight visit ... so hopefully that will weigh into consideration.

Quicksilvre 11-27-2007 12:02 AM

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I have a 4.0 gpa, a 35 ACT, and a load of ECs ... but my essays aren't really imaginative or great ... just solid and well-written

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Sounds like you could get in just about anywhere. I had a 35 ACT, a 1500 (old) SAT, a 94/100 gpa, and hardly any ECs and got into all of the colleges I applied for.

Keyser. 11-27-2007 02:25 AM

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I've heard that a very good essay will not necessarily get you admitted (but a GREAT one might), but the more important thing is that a very bad/poorly written/stupid essay could easily get you denied if you're otherwise qualified.

Artdogg 11-27-2007 04:21 PM

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can someone give me examples of things that can get you denied?

Wyman 11-27-2007 06:21 PM

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can someone give me examples of things that can get you denied?

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Writing about your favorite hobby: killing cats.

emon87 11-27-2007 06:30 PM

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Afraid it's regular decision, but I did an overnight visit ... so hopefully that will weigh into consideration.

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lol won't matter at all

Artdogg 11-27-2007 08:25 PM

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can someone give me examples of things that can get you denied?

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Writing about your favorite hobby: killing cats.

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LOL vn, on a somewhat serious matter im just wondering if you can get denied for going "too deep"

qdmcg 11-27-2007 08:44 PM

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My thoughts: the essay isn't super important.

If your academic qualifications are boderline not good enough for a certain school but you write a memorable essay that stands out, it can certainly help you get in. Also, if you write a very poor essay (the only thing I could think of is one that is very inappropriate or one that shows you clearly put very little thought/effort/time into it) it could prevent you from getting accepted somewhere you may have gotten into.

Other than that, if your essay is just "normal/solid", I doubt it has too much effect on whether or not you get in somewhere.

Ganjasaurus Rex 11-27-2007 09:23 PM

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can someone give me examples of things that can get you denied?

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Unacceptable GPA and SAT.

It's hard to blow it with an essay if your GPA and SAT are through the roof. But i suppose you could if you called the admissions lady a cu**.

jono 11-27-2007 09:52 PM

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thinly veiled I'm so smart look at me post?

Ganjasaurus Rex 11-27-2007 10:35 PM

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thinly veiled I'm so smart look at me post?

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It would be silly to do that on a board where there are tons of people here who are smarter and more successful than i am.

jono 11-27-2007 10:49 PM

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was talking about OP (thought that was obvious)

Bork 11-27-2007 10:52 PM

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It would be silly to do that on a board where there are tons of people here who are smarter and more successful than i am.

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Do you or do you not do silly things!?

ohioguy218 11-27-2007 11:00 PM

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thinly veiled I'm so smart look at me post?

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No ... I rarely post here and so I could care less ... but I know there were some Northwestern guys here ... and I really was looking for their input on the whole thing

ohioguy218 11-28-2007 12:38 AM

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I've written it already. To ease my mind, would anyone like to read it and give me some feedback? I'll PM it to anyone who is interested.

surftheiop 11-28-2007 12:40 AM

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actually according to self reported info from NU its does play a slight role.

I forget where i saw this, was worded as something like "demonostrated interest"

Ganjasaurus Rex 11-28-2007 04:53 AM

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was talking about OP (thought that was obvious)

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SuperUberBob 11-28-2007 09:07 PM

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If you're borderline on being accepted, they can serve as the dealbreaker. But if your other academic stats are way above their requirements or averages, then just write any old thing and you're good.

HedonismBot 11-29-2007 12:52 AM

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I started writing mine at 4pm the day it was due and got into a good school, you should be fine


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