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Double Eagle 11-29-2007 01:38 AM

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Stephen Jackson is a man. That is all.

AllinDan 11-29-2007 01:52 AM

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I think Monta will be better than Michael Redd, though obviously a different type of player and probably a worse rebounder. (And 6'3 instead of 6'6)

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prop bet?

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how would you measure it?

what a ridiculous game. I thought the whole 4th quarter was just a practical joke on all us warriors fans, but. . .wow.

PITTM 11-29-2007 01:52 AM

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First game of the season I missed. God our homegame is lame too. 715-915! at 915 people start leaving because theyre tired. im just gonna stay and watch warriors next time.

offTopic 11-29-2007 02:04 AM

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Silly to say "great win" in game 14 in November, but this had all the earmarks of a tough loss...shoot like poo, Kings on the line all day, I'm driving home and they're down 4 late...I must've missed those 3s because when I turned the game on the TV, they were up 2.

Love the 4th quarter D, and even the FTs were good tonight!

Good win.

AllinDan 11-29-2007 02:06 AM

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Jesus man..

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I think Monta will be better than Michael Redd, though obviously a different type of player and probably a worse rebounder. (And 6'3 instead of 6'6)

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All I can say is prepared to be disappointed. I was actually thinking it'd be awesome if Martin reaches Redd's level (who is currently peaking). I'll poop my pants if Monta ever has that kind of impact.

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Eh, I think I have a lower opinion on Redd than you do. He's a great shooter with range, and a great ft shooter, but not all that great on the boards or on D. Martin is already at his level and Monta will be. They may not be scoring 26/game, but Martin certainly would be given 19 shots/game, and Monta will get there, and will do more on D and create more for his teammates.

kidcolin 11-29-2007 02:20 AM

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dan,

Not counting this season, I'm largely with you on Redd. I think Martin now is about the same as the Redd of the past couple of years, or darn close at least. Granted it's a small sample size, but Redd is taking it to a new level so far. Grabbing 6 boards and dishing out 4 dimes. I guess he's in a lot better shape this season and has committed to being more well rounded. I guess we'll see in April.

BobboFitos 11-29-2007 04:08 AM

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I think Monta will be better than Michael Redd, though obviously a different type of player and probably a worse rebounder. (And 6'3 instead of 6'6)

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prop bet?

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how would you measure it?

what a ridiculous game. I thought the whole 4th quarter was just a practical joke on all us warriors fans, but. . .wow.

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we could set up like a 5k fund from both of us, escrow it away in an account accumulating interest, and in 20 years when both players are out of the league we compare stats

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Chris Daddy Cool 11-29-2007 08:36 AM

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warriors are so sick right now. amazing they started off 0-6, now 7-7. clutch clutch clutch 3pointers by captain jack.

Vyse 11-29-2007 09:03 AM

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i think monta ellis is one of the most overrated players in the nba right now.

offTopic 11-29-2007 01:23 PM

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<Jim Barnett>

Against a team like the Warriors, Yao is going to get his...the key is to turn Tracy McGrady into a volume shooter.

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Just picked up a 50-200mm lens for my camera, and going tonight...hopefully the shooting improves over last night!

AllinDan 11-29-2007 04:53 PM

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i think monta ellis is one of the most overrated players in the nba right now.

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By-Tor 11-29-2007 08:34 PM

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Against a team like the Warriors, Yao is going to get his...the key is to turn Tracy McGrady into a volume shooter.

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Just picked up a 50-200mm lens for my camera, and going tonight...hopefully the shooting improves over last night!

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call ahead about the lens, they are getting tight about "pro cameras"

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PROHIBITED ITEMS
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES OR ILLEGAL DRUGS
ALL BOTTLES AND ALUMINUM CANS
ANY KIND OF POLES OR STICKS
BACKPACKS & LARGE BAGS
COOLERS WITH HARD SIDES
FIREWORKS, FIREARMS, OR WEAPONS OF ANY KIND
FOOD & BEVERAGE, INCLUDING BOTTLED WATER
NOISEMAKERS OF ANY KIND
SCOOTERS, PORTABLE CHAIRS, BICYCLES, ROLLERSKATES
THERMOSES
VIDEO CAMERAS OR PROFESSIONAL CAMERAS

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they define it by lens length (physical)

offTopic 11-29-2007 08:42 PM

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<Jim Barnett>

Against a team like the Warriors, Yao is going to get his...the key is to turn Tracy McGrady into a volume shooter.

</Jim Barnett>

Just picked up a 50-200mm lens for my camera, and going tonight...hopefully the shooting improves over last night!

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call ahead about the lens, they are getting tight about "pro cameras"

[ QUOTE ]
PROHIBITED ITEMS
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES OR ILLEGAL DRUGS
ALL BOTTLES AND ALUMINUM CANS
ANY KIND OF POLES OR STICKS
BACKPACKS & LARGE BAGS
COOLERS WITH HARD SIDES
FIREWORKS, FIREARMS, OR WEAPONS OF ANY KIND
FOOD & BEVERAGE, INCLUDING BOTTLED WATER
NOISEMAKERS OF ANY KIND
SCOOTERS, PORTABLE CHAIRS, BICYCLES, ROLLERSKATES
THERMOSES
VIDEO CAMERAS OR PROFESSIONAL CAMERAS

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they define it by lens length (physical)

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I just talked to someone at Oracle, and they were pretty clueless...guess I might be making a return trip to the car.

By-Tor 11-29-2007 08:45 PM

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<Jim Barnett>

Against a team like the Warriors, Yao is going to get his...the key is to turn Tracy McGrady into a volume shooter.

</Jim Barnett>

Just picked up a 50-200mm lens for my camera, and going tonight...hopefully the shooting improves over last night!

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call ahead about the lens, they are getting tight about "pro cameras"

[ QUOTE ]
PROHIBITED ITEMS
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES OR ILLEGAL DRUGS
ALL BOTTLES AND ALUMINUM CANS
ANY KIND OF POLES OR STICKS
BACKPACKS & LARGE BAGS
COOLERS WITH HARD SIDES
FIREWORKS, FIREARMS, OR WEAPONS OF ANY KIND
FOOD & BEVERAGE, INCLUDING BOTTLED WATER
NOISEMAKERS OF ANY KIND
SCOOTERS, PORTABLE CHAIRS, BICYCLES, ROLLERSKATES
THERMOSES
VIDEO CAMERAS OR PROFESSIONAL CAMERAS

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they define it by lens length (physical)

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I just talked to someone at Oracle, and they were pretty clueless...guess I might be making a return trip to the car.

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have your 50mm on the body when you go in and the other in your bag. like you said, they are fairly clueless and i'm sure you get in.

offTopic 11-29-2007 08:54 PM

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have your 50mm on the body when you go in and the other in your bag. like you said, they are fairly clueless and i'm sure you get in.

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The Warrior FAQ page spells it out a little more clearly...no still cameras with lenses > 3". Fascists. I was able to get a 40-150 in previously because I had a 17-45 on the body like you said. The new lens is so goddamned big, I can't really put it in my current bag without attaching it to the body. Maybe next time...

iamawesomer 11-30-2007 09:39 AM

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GOGOGO Warriors, winning record baby!

offTopic 11-30-2007 12:49 PM

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Game was kinda boring, but that's OK if your team is on the good end of a laugher. Houston did not get good guard play, and that's not the recipe for success against the Warriors.

Harrington had a very nice all-around game with a very efficient 18 points, and effective harrassment of Yao.

PITTM 11-30-2007 01:06 PM

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well it couldnt have possibly been worse than the celtics/knicks game on espn. That was over as the 2nd started.

jogsxyz 11-30-2007 04:25 PM

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i think monta ellis is one of the most overrated players in the nba right now.

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Don't think he's that highly regarded. Hard to be overrated when not highly rated.

Vyse 11-30-2007 04:28 PM

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His potential is overstated. He's loved in fantasy when even there he's not that good. He should be traded, not part of the Warriors' long-term plans.

sethypooh21 11-30-2007 05:44 PM

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I tend to agree that Monta is overrated esp. by GSW fans. Not saying he's not good but

Monta or KevMart?
Monta or Barbossa?
Monta or TJ Ford?
Monta or Ronnie Brewer (completely different type of player, obv...)
If/when Andre Miller gets traded possibly Monta or Lou Williams?

iamawesomer 11-30-2007 05:56 PM

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I would take Monta over all of them cept Kmart.

iamawesomer 11-30-2007 05:56 PM

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I am a Warriors fan though.

Vyse 11-30-2007 06:09 PM

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lol @ brewer and lou williams

offTopic 12-01-2007 02:09 AM

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The seats were pretty good...as I said earlier, I didn't bother trying to sneak in the bigger (and better) lens, so I got some OK shots, but the lighting isn't great (Yao is a big dude!):

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y15...gsw-houw-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y15.../gsw-hou-2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y15.../gsw-hou-3.jpg

For the photo buffs, these were taken with an Olympus E-500, 40-150mm kit lens at max zoom, aperture priority -0.7. The SHQ image is shrunk down to 25%.

sethypooh21 12-01-2007 07:20 AM

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Oh, agreed. But just trying to put the Monta love in context of his 'peer' group (and I obviously forgot Devin Harris as well)

BobboFitos 12-01-2007 07:21 AM

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wait, people would really take monta ellis over ronnie brewer? you guys serious? Ronnie is so hot

Vyse 12-01-2007 07:28 AM

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no he's not.

BobboFitos 12-01-2007 07:28 AM

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no he's not.

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brewer plays good defense
monta? not so much

Vyse 12-01-2007 07:42 AM

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brewer rates horribly at 82games

offense is also > than defense

kidcolin 12-01-2007 07:52 AM

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I knew you were basing it on 82games, which you seem to cherry pick about. I'm guessing you're just going based on +/- stuff? Cuz then Monta wins. Roland Rating, PER differentials, then Brewer wins.

edit: my own thoughts on the matter; both seem to be good fits for the systems they're in. I'd say Monta is slightly more valuable to the Warriors than Brewer is to the Jizz.


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