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sharkscopeaholic 11-24-2007 06:22 PM

NL 10 i go broke here ALOT
 
Opponet has a set here almost every time right? ONly ten hands ive been at the table so no reads, but we both got a lot of money behind for felting just a pair right?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">SB ($2)</font>
BB ($14.95)
UTG ($11.15)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($9.60)</font>
MP1 ($10.60)
MP2 ($5.05)
<font color="#C00000">MP3 ($9)</font>
CO ($2.75)
Button ($2.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.3</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.30, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($0.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.45</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $1.5</font>, Hero ?

Sugar Nut 11-24-2007 06:34 PM

Re: NL 10 i go broke here ALOT
 
Now if the board were Q72r he might have a set almost all the time here, but this board is so drawheavy, that it is entirely possible that he's on a draw. I don't fold the flop here.

Posssible options are: reraise to about 4.50-5.00 (although i guess you would then have to call his shove which i don't like), or call Flop and lead any turn that doesn't complete a draw.

Sugar Nut

mmctrab 11-24-2007 06:41 PM

Re: NL 10 i go broke here ALOT
 
*grunch*

Raise more preflop. Reraise it to 6 on the flop.

nickcee 11-24-2007 06:47 PM

Re: NL 10 i go broke here ALOT
 
I am 3 betting. There is no reason to think he has a set here. Think about ranges, not specific hands. I am not getting away here, unless I really know this guy. As an aside, think about raising more PF.

Teddie 11-24-2007 06:52 PM

Re: NL 10 i go broke here ALOT
 
0.40 preflop. Then get it all-in asap.

sharkscopeaholic 11-24-2007 06:56 PM

Re: NL 10 i go broke here ALOT
 
The only hands i beat here are one pair hands though (I folded). Will they stack off with a pair here enough to make it worth it?

Panthro 11-24-2007 07:01 PM

Re: NL 10 i go broke here ALOT
 
keep felting.

ClubChamp04 11-24-2007 07:01 PM

Re: NL 10 i go broke here ALOT
 
Raise more preflop and get the money in on this flop. Poker is not looking good if 10nl players are turning up sets here a lot [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

mmctrab 11-24-2007 07:07 PM

Re: NL 10 i go broke here ALOT
 
[ QUOTE ]
The only hands i beat here are one pair hands though (I folded). Will they stack off with a pair here enough to make it worth it?

[/ QUOTE ]

He can have a Q, he can have a flush draw, he can have middle pair and think you're c-betting with air. Who says he's going to stack off? A reraise by you telling him you have a real hand may take the pot down. Against an unknown you need to 3 bet this.

xxrod17xx 11-24-2007 07:41 PM

Re: NL 10 i go broke here ALOT
 
I am glad we didnt see this is 10NL shove, comments. I def dont think you can fold this flop at all. I am also all for a large raise PF. By the looks of your name you are prob a sng player moving into some NL cash games. With the stacks being a little deeper we like to raise a little more PF for a number of reasons. As far as improving your results in this situation...you need to probably take better notes and know what your opposition is capable of. You should try and know if this player is going to raise on a flop like this with an AQ type hand, a draw, air, sets (a lot of players at 10NL would slowplay in this spot). I think knowing your opposition is the key to improving your results in spots like this because this is really one of those it depends situations. It depends on your opponents tendencies.


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