Fuper - AQs Weird Hand
 

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, $55,000 Guarantee, 20/40 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG+2: 2,325
MP1: 3,195
MP2: 7,273
CO: 2,655
BTN: 8,590
SB: 2,865
BB: 2,955
UTG: 5,982
Hero (UTG+1): 2,845

Pre-Flop: (60) Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Qhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG calls 40, <font color="red">Hero raises to 180</font>, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to 320</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls 320, CO folds, BTN calls 320, UTG calls 280, Hero calls 140

Flop: (1,660) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (5 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets 500</font>, BTN calls 500, UTG folds, Hero ???


UTG+2 is a random. MP2 random. Button is Kwob20. UTG random.

Re: Fuper - AQs Weird Hand
 

WTF IS THIS?!

Re: Fuper - AQs Weird Hand
 

if he had bet more i wuda folded but i cant see not calling such a small bet and see what happens on turn.

Re: Fuper - AQs Weird Hand
 

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WTF IS THIS?!

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Those were my thoughts this entire hand

Re: Fuper - AQs Weird Hand
 

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, $55,000 Guarantee, 20/40 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG+2: 2,325
MP1: 3,195
MP2: 7,273
CO: 2,655
BTN: 8,590
SB: 2,865
BB: 2,955
UTG: 5,982
Hero (UTG+1): 2,845

Pre-Flop: (60) Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Qhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG calls 40, <font color="red">Hero raises to 180</font>, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to 320</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls 320, CO folds, BTN calls 320, UTG calls 280, Hero calls 140

Flop: (1,660) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (5 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets 500</font>, BTN calls 500, UTG folds, Hero calls 500, UTG+2 calls 500

Turn: (3,660) Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero ????</font>

Re: Fuper - AQs Weird Hand
 

Why not shove pre?

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Why not shove pre?

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why shove pre?

Re: Fuper - AQs Weird Hand
 

There's like 1400 in the pot.

Re: Fuper - AQs Weird Hand
 

hah this is a crazy hand. erm i think i gotta call this small bet on the flop also.

On turn obv KTs made it, aa becomes a lot more unlikely, and jj/77 are there aswell but i weight them less since surely someone would bet more / raise with a set with this many players with straights out there, but then again the whole hand looks so donkish already they could easily be there. T9s is still drawing tho, so are a lot 1pair/gutshot draws.

So since u got like a 2k left in a 3.4k pot i think i just shove, hoping to get called by aq, aj or qjs or some other stupid 1 pair hands one of these donks cant let go off.

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hah this is a crazy hand. erm i think i gotta call this small bet on the flop also.

On turn obv KTs made it, aa becomes a lot more unlikely, and jj/77 are there aswell but i weight them less since surely someone would bet more / raise with a set with this many players with straights out there, but then again the whole hand looks so donkish already they could easily be there. T9s is still drawing tho, so are a lot 1pair/gutshot draws.

So since u got like a 2k left in a 3.4k pot i think i just shove, hoping to get called by aq, aj or qjs or some other stupid 1 pair hands one of these donks cant let go off.

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*sigh*

Re: Fuper - AQs Weird Hand
 

rereading it maybe i didn't explain myself that well, lets hear your interpretation of the hand.

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I'd shove the turn. I don't see UTG+2 playing anything that beats us like this, so I'm going to assume we have have him beat. If he has AA-JJ, meh good for him. MP2 could have flopped a set I suppose, but I mean wtf is up w/ that bet sizing? Looks more like a AJs, KQs making a stupid probe bet. Kwob20 could have KTs or T9s or even something like AT[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] but I'd think w/ our stacksize and the size of the pot you should to get it in here.

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Maybe I'm an uber nit, but does anyone consider folding the flop?

1. We are out of position against two players who have shown they are willing to play the hand

2. The action preflop was crazy, although this maybe indicitive of some real donkeyness, even donkeys get hands sometimes, and there is so much action I'd be suprised if one of the players didn't have JJ+, in which case we are pretty screwed here. Not all the players have that deep stacks, so they can't all be playing speculative hands with good implied odds.

3. We aren't very deep, and the pot is pretty big right now, so we are pretty much committed fi we call, and OOP we certainly dont have enough chips to get enough info to fold later in the hand.

As played, I don't think that turn really helps us that much. the only hand it helps us beat is KK, so I'm not sure why everyone now thinks we should be raising.

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I like your line throughout the hand so far and I think it is just one of those sick situations where you can't really do much else but get your stack in there. I think you are beat but I also can't see myself folding in this spot. You might not even have the second best hand.

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I like a pre shove even though the small 3-bet of course is a bit scary, but if he has a big hand you dont lose much in cEV with the overlay from the other players unless he has aces.

as played I dont like the c/c and prefer just c/f'ing or c/r all-in (possibly getting a split to fold).

Re: Fuper - AQs Weird Hand
 

I also don't like the flop call. However, if we call the flop and then this ace hits, why would even consider not getting to the river/getting it all in? I mean, what were we looking for on the turn if we are calling the flop?

Re: Fuper - AQs Weird Hand
 

Does anyone besides me consider CRAI on this flop? The pot is huge at that point and nobody is really showing a lot of strength.

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im just learning..... but does ne1 lead the flop here?