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pokercurious 11-19-2007 01:15 AM

$11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?
 
Villain has show himself to be a blufftastic aggro-monkey. He will bet to chase flushes/straight, and then bet on the end when he misses. He randomly goes allin PF. The story of the match so far is that I bleed chips for while, then play calling station if I hit a flop and get a huge chunk of chips:

Blinds 25/50
Hero: 1790 (button)
Villain: 1210

Dealt to Hero: XX

Hero raises to 100
Villain calls 50

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villain checks
<font color="red">Hero bets 125</font>
<font color="red">Villain raises to 400</font>
<ul type="square"> [*]What is villain's range here? [*]Assuming that calling is really out of the question (because we might have a little fold equity, what is our shoving range here?[/list]

TruGrinder 11-19-2007 01:57 AM

Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?
 
A6 K6

Landonfan 11-19-2007 02:04 AM

Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?
 
How does he play with marginal made hands? Has he checkraised before, or does he usually lead out?

pokercurious 11-19-2007 02:30 AM

Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?
 
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How does he play with marginal made hands? Has he checkraised before, or does he usually lead out?

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This was the 50th hand of the match, and I'd only seen one marginal made hand from him: He also later check-called the flop and river on KKAx board with a naked A.

On the 4th hand he c/r'ed my cbet all in (to 840) on an AKx flop. I folded.

He hasn't led OOP at all, but has continued OTB plenty.

ChicagoRy 11-19-2007 03:01 AM

Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?
 
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A6 K6

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Awesome.

chrismystero 11-19-2007 03:19 AM

Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?
 
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A6 K6

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Awesome.

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lol, I wish I could narrow Villains down this good.

pokercurious 11-19-2007 03:28 AM

Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?
 
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A6 K6

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Awesome.

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lol, I wish I could narrow Villains down this good.

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Agreed. How did I not figure that out myself? Bluffing monkeys always have TPTK when they reraise in this spot. Never anything else.

Does anyone actually have a reply here?

chrismystero 11-19-2007 03:34 AM

Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?
 
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A6 K6

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Awesome.

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lol, I wish I could narrow Villains down this good.

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Agreed. How did I not figure that out myself? Bluffing monkeys always have TPTK when they reraise in this spot. Never anything else.

Does anyone actually have a reply here?

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This is why you're not getting much of a reply:

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blufftastic aggro-monkey

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ATC I guess?

pokercurious 11-19-2007 03:48 AM

Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?
 
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This is why you're not getting much of a reply:

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blufftastic aggro-monkey


ATC I guess?

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Point taken, but I also provided more detailed description of his play in the OP and in response to Landonfan.

Additionally, villain's line is a bit atypical of his normal 'blufftastic' behavior, which would be shoving, I think.

asg 11-19-2007 04:19 AM

Re: $11 NLTRN - 25/50: what is villain\'s range here?
 
His range cannot be determined because all hands have odds to call if you only minraise.

That being said, my best guess would be

6x, 4x, or two spades


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