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lexxor 04-17-2007 06:11 PM

NL10 - did i get outplayed?
 
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">SB: $4.10</font>
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $10.05</font>
UTG: $1.10
<font color="black">MP: $12.75</font>
CO: $8.95
BTN: $8.40

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($0.30) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.30</font>, MP calls $0.30, SB folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($0.90) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.90</font>, MP calls $0.90

<font color="black">River:</font> ($2.70) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $3</font>, Hero folds

Should i have bet the river?

Gullanian 04-17-2007 06:33 PM

Re: NL10 - did i get outplayed?
 
Any reads on opponent? At these stakes without reads I call 100% of the time.

Bowlboy 04-17-2007 06:49 PM

Re: NL10 - did i get outplayed?
 
You have to bet this river because 2pair is almost always good here. I call this river bet because it screams please fold. I would have bet around $1.50 to $2.00 on the river.

kolotoure 04-17-2007 06:50 PM

Re: NL10 - did i get outplayed?
 
Please
bet
the
river

lexxor 04-17-2007 06:52 PM

Re: NL10 - did i get outplayed?
 
Alright, thanks. Dunno why i didnt bet

czGLoRy 04-17-2007 06:53 PM

Re: NL10 - did i get outplayed?
 
looks to me like he doesn't know what he is doing and I would put him on a big pair probably but not able to beat your two pair, but he might have hit a set of threes or fives

Obliky 04-17-2007 06:57 PM

Re: NL10 - did i get outplayed?
 
Bet the river, this guy is likely to pay you off with a pair and your just missing out on value by not betting... if you were going for a cheeky river check raise then i wouldnt bother, the guys at NL10 will just check behind more often than not.

Also, i think your betting a bit too much on the flop and turn.. no need to pot these streets as there are no big draws and you would like to get called TBH.

Bowlboy 04-17-2007 07:10 PM

Re: NL10 - did i get outplayed?
 
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Also, i think your betting a bit too much on the flop and turn.. no need to pot these streets as there are no big draws and you would like to get called TBH.

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I think the pot bet on the flop is perfectly fine. Any hand that would have called a .20 bet will call .30 here imo. This is 10NL and people like to call flop bets in un raised pots. The turn is perhaps a little much without a read but the fact that the board is not drawy suggests that villain has a made hand like A10. If that were the case, he would likely think his hand is good enough to call a pot sized turn bet. Again, most hands that would call .60 on the turn will call for the pot.

FWIW, I dont think that most players at 10NL are paying much attention to betting patterns. You can get away with betting smaller with marginal hands like top pair, and betting bigger with stronger hands such as 2pair.

Obliky 04-17-2007 07:16 PM

Re: NL10 - did i get outplayed?
 
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FWIW, I dont think that most players at 10NL are paying much attention to betting patterns. You can get away with betting smaller with marginal hands like top pair, and betting bigger with stronger hands such as 2pair.

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Good point... im probably giving the NL10 guys too much credit. Still, useful for the OP to know when he moves up [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Spanky1974 04-18-2007 06:00 AM

Re: NL10 - did i get outplayed?
 
If you check a strong hand on the river, you are looking for him to bluff. You have to call here because you may have induced a bluff. If you bet the river and are raised, then it's a totally different scenario.


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