50/100 River my flush on a paired board. raise? call a shove?
 

Villain is spectrum1234. I don't know his game real well but based on this session, he hates folding and is very aggressive, even a little spewy. Raise or call river? If you raise, how much do you make it and do you call a push? Does anyone like just shoving it?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $50/$100 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $17,794.50
BB: $22,398.00
Hero (BTN): $13,646.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $350.00</font>, SB calls $300.00, BB folds

Flop: ($800) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($800) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $800.00</font>, Hero calls $800.00

River: ($2400) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1,400.00</font>

Re: 50/100 River my flush on a paired board. raise? call a shove?
 

I used to always raise this, now I have started calling. I feel like unless u can comfortably call a shove I'd hate raising. Can he really call like 4200 with much you beat? I don't think i'd call like 98 here in his spot.

Re: 50/100 River my flush on a paired board. raise? call a shove?
 

call for sure

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call for sure

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Re: 50/100 River my flush on a paired board. raise? call a shove?
 

i would raise it to like 4600 and fold to shove, I think that this guy pays off with a lower flush for sure and probably an eight, maybe worse depending on how he views and you and stuff.

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i would raise it to like 4600 and fold to shove, I think that this guy pays off with a lower flush for sure and probably an eight, maybe worse depending on how he views and you and stuff.

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how many lower flushes in this spot lack a 5, 7, 8, or T of spades in their hand?

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I used to always raise this, now I have started calling. I feel like unless u can comfortably call a shove I'd hate raising.

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Wha? It's not like villain is gonna rebluff you off or shove with a worse flush. At least, I'm not gonna give him credit for being that sick until I have seen some evidence. I think I would make it $4200 and fold to a shove, given description of villain.

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i would raise it to like 4600 and fold to shove, I think that this guy pays off with a lower flush for sure and probably an eight, maybe worse depending on how he views and you and stuff.

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how many lower flushes in this spot lack a 5, 7, 8, or T of spades in their hand?

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Yea thats a good point, I still think its a raise tho, I mean this guys not that good, doesnt like to fold, will never bluff-shove, doesn't have a hand that beats you very often, and Ike has a crazy image (at least im assuming, since he usually does).

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i would raise it to like 4600 and fold to shove, I think that this guy pays off with a lower flush for sure and probably an eight, maybe worse depending on how he views and you and stuff.

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how many lower flushes in this spot lack a 5, 7, 8, or T of spades in their hand?

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Yea thats a good point, I still think its a raise tho, I mean this guys not that good, doesnt like to fold, will never bluff-shove, doesn't have a hand that beats you very often, and Ike has a crazy image (at least im assuming, since he usually does).

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k, if hes that bad, u kno whats up

Re: 50/100 River my flush on a paired board. raise? call a shove?
 

how can he pay off with an 8 when your hand is so easily a boat or a flush? and he's kinda spewy. what if, as unlikely as it is, you raise to 4600 and he pushes some cheese. even if you ARE ahead 50% when called, and I dont think you are, unless it's - say - 60% you're not getting anywhere near the overlay you need for giving yourself the chance at losing a won pot, IMO. and i dont see how you can possibly be ahead 60% WHEN CALLED here...