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thing85 11-16-2007 11:40 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Very easy. Unless he 4bets light, he commits himself. He is effectively all in. You are the one deciding to put money in or not. Just catch him with the top of your range. I don't remember the exact math, but you need like to pick one spot in 8 being a 3 to 1 favorite to break even. Thats like AK vs AQ. Make it QQ vs JJ and you already show a good profit.

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Interesting. So you're saying my 5betAI range should be with QQ+ and AK? What you're saying though is that, for example, if I make this move 8 times with hands like QQ+, AK, I need to be a 3 to 1 favorite one of those times to break even?

whyzze 11-16-2007 12:13 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
thing, I think you need a read. Personally, if I am 3betting someone frequently, I have to keep lowering my 5bai range for when they finally take a stand. It sounds like you are on the brink of this range, maybe not just from your 3bets, but from others at the table as well.

Basically, when you have a read that he may be 4betting light, you should 3bet with the intent of a 5bai or calling a shove. If you cant do that with a particular holding, then you shouldn't 3bet imo.

thing85 11-16-2007 12:29 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Makes sense. Does a light 4bettor usually call a 5bAI? Or can he ever get away from it? (Assume ~pot sized 4bet)

whyzze 11-16-2007 12:33 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
depends...personnally, I think its bad to 4bet and fold ATC when you are 100bbs. I mean, he probably gets away from hands like Q10 and the like and some SCs. But his calling range is definately A10s+, 55+.

ShipitFMA 11-16-2007 12:35 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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im having fun railing this thread.

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are you laughing at me pouring my heart out whyzze?

whyzze 11-16-2007 12:38 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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im having fun railing this thread.

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are you laughing at me pouring my heart out whyzze?

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Not at all. Im excited to see how things turn out for whoever gets picked. Its all cool to hear all the poker stories and whatnot.

Id like to do what he is doing one day myself tbh. More of a staking/coaching offer when my game is ready.

I would apply, but i have basically moved up to SSNL.

bozzer 11-16-2007 12:40 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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im having fun railing this thread.

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are you laughing at me pouring my heart out whyzze?

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derosnec 11-16-2007 12:45 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
you're all ugly

ShipitFMA 11-16-2007 12:47 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
wanna bet?

PJo336 11-16-2007 12:48 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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you're all ugly

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this seems more likely to be ur actual belief after that microbrew pic thread

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