KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep
 

Villain: 33/19/1.89/97

Reads: Villain has been involved in many pots, raising and calling raises preflop. Sees many flops, but has shown consistent ability to ck/fold oop and fold to c-bets when ip.

Villain doubled up twice w/ AA. First time he 3-bet small OTB (2x) and 5-bet shoved against KK. Second time he opened OTB and flat-called SB 3-bet to 4x, got it in on T94r Flop vs Q9.

Villain has only gone to S/D 4 times. Twice w/ AA, once w/ AJ on A-hi Flop, once w/ 65o where he called pre in multiway pot, Flop ck'd thru, he called w/ OESD ip on Turn, and got it in on River when str8 hit.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: $42.55
Hero (BB): $85.75
UTG: $77.40
MP: $47.80
Villain (CO): $194.45
BTN: $23

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $2</font>, Villain (CO) calls $2, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero (BB) raises to $10</font>, MP folds, Villain (CO) calls $8

Flop: ($22.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, CO calls $14

Turn: ($50.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)

Hero?

Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep
 

bets..? Please don't tell me you're afraid of AA again here. He could easily have 10's-QQ. Plus, don't you think AA raises you on this wet flop, just like a set would?

I bet this turn, expecting him to have an overpair.

Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep
 

I don't expect AA at all.

I don't expect QQ either very often, altho it can be a small part of his range.

Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep
 

so what do you think he has, then? A five would be so random. I still think JJ and 10 10 (possibly even 99) make the most sense. If he has a made straight or a set, he played this so stupid

Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep
 

Agreed - I am not worried about the straight either.

Based on preflop/Flop action I estimate 77-JJ, maybe QQ.

Since he has shown postflop restraint in the past and only shown down winning hands I'm wondering if I bet the Turn do I fold out all worse hands (99-JJ) and get called only by sets (77/88)?

To me it seems like my hand is pretty obviously a big pair or AK, right?

edit: I have $61.75 left, pot = $50.25. If you advocate a Turn bet what size do you make it?

Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep
 

i think villians 3 betting range here is very important. if you have seen him 3 bet much i c/f here as i think his range is heavily smaller sc's or low pairs, pretty much all of which have you crushed or drawing slim. if you think he can play 1010 or jj or perhaps qq this way i would take the stack a donk line. i think betting this turn is bad.

Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep
 

Hero bets $25 and check calls reasonable river.

Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep
 

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Hero bets $25 and check calls reasonable river.

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So were not calling any heart? and allow villian to bluff a blank?

$25, is about half the remaining stack - is there are agrument for just getting the chips in on the Turn?

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Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep
 

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Hero bets $25 and check calls reasonable river.

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So were not calling any heart? and allow villian to bluff a blank?

$25, is about half the remaining stack - is there are agrument for just getting the chips in on the Turn?

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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Ops, sorry, for some reason I thought there was 3 hearts on the board already... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

I don't believe he's on a draw or has AA, betting $25 is better because he may call making it easier for us to get all our chips in (modifying our river play from my last post... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] ).

Re: KK in RR Pot 177BB\'s Deep
 

based on your reads, it appears we are playing against an agressive, but clearly not stupid, villain. If he puts you on AA or KK, which is very reasonable, there's no way he's just calling you with 2pr on the flop. The only draw the 6h really could have helped is 9 10, which I doubt he's calling you with preflop. I suppose if he has a really good read on you having AA or KK, he could smooth call the flop with a set of 4's, 7's, or 8's, or even 56.

But if we think about it, he's probably playing 99, 10 10, JJ, and to a lesser extent, QQ, the exact same way.

This board is becoming too draw heavy to give CO free cards.