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blah-blah-blah 09-25-2007 05:03 PM

QJs 200BB deep & I have the button
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($194)
SB ($268.35)
BB ($401.45)
UTG ($336.05)
MP ($478.60)
Hero ($574.25)

Reads: Villian is a good solid player and he's running 21.7/16.2/2.4 in 1200 combined hands from 200NL and 100NL. We play each other aggressively pre-flop w/ lots of 3-betting and such but we never get too crazy. The table at the time was playing very aggressively with tons of deep stacks and it was getting really fun.

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $26</font>, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($53) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $39</font>, Hero calls $39.

Turn: ($131) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $95</font> Hero???

tubasteve 09-25-2007 05:05 PM

Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button
 
i think i would raise the flop while my equity is still amazing vs his range

edit: i could be wrong easily though

Jamougha 09-25-2007 05:07 PM

Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button
 
liek call

Raising and calling the flop are both reasonable.

RivFader 09-25-2007 05:15 PM

Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button
 
Raising the flop makes his life very tough if he has AA or KK so I prefer it.

Jay Riall 09-25-2007 05:18 PM

Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button
 
Meh, I prefer playing for value with the pair of Qs so I just call the flop - no-one folds better there imo (at least not often). Call the turn, especially as you can still have the best hand sometimes.

blah-blah-blah 09-25-2007 05:30 PM

Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button
 
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Meh, I prefer playing for value with the pair of Qs so I just call the flop - no-one folds better there imo (at least not often). Call the turn, especially as you can still have the best hand sometimes.

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I think the flop call is pretty standard for reasons jay stated already. I'm pretty sure my hand is never best on the turn unless he has AKcc.

lgchop83 09-25-2007 05:31 PM

Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button
 
As played I like a call, I think he pushes too often if you raise. Been playing online for a day so could be wrong?

Imrahil 09-25-2007 05:34 PM

Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button
 
Calling turn may not be bad because he could be 3betting light and the turn could have made him a FD and a SD of some sort. Folding the turn sounds crazy but it's not bad.

blah-blah-blah 09-25-2007 06:24 PM

Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($194)
SB ($268.35)
BB ($401.45)
UTG ($336.05)
MP ($478.60)
Hero ($574.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $26</font>, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($53) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $39</font>, Hero calls $39.

Turn: ($131) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $95</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $509.25</font>

good?

keikiwai 09-25-2007 06:27 PM

Re: QJs 200BB deep & I have the button
 
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button ($194)
SB ($268.35)
BB ($401.45)
UTG ($336.05)
MP ($478.60)
Hero ($574.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $26</font>, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($53) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $39</font>, Hero calls $39.

Turn: ($131) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $95</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $509.25</font>

good?

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yuck

i think raising flop is ok, but i can see calling

raising turn once your equity has halved the turn semi-blanks (he's not gonna give you credit for 64) and the pot is getting big is pretty bad imo


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