A 25PL hand played badly on every street except possibly the river
 

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Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.25
10 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $19
UTG+1: $77.90
Hero: $86.30
MP1: $31.70
MP2: $15
MP3: $18.40
CO: $27
Button: $26.80
SB: $13
BB: $4.90

UTG+1 is solid, MP1 is very TAG, SB is weak-terrible. everyone else is donating.

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, SB (poster) checks, BB (poster) checks.

So I open limp OOP with a mediocre hand. In my defense, the only players I really worry about have folded or will fold after I enter the pot.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.75, 6 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $1</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

I call because this is a weak bet and I think I can take it away on the next street, and I will have position now.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $1</font>, Hero calls.

I pick up a monster draw and get really stupid. His bet is so weak I'm sure if I raise he'll fold and I don't think I want that. How bad is this?

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $11</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB calls all-in $5.75</font>.
Uncalled bets: $0.25 returned to Hero.

So I hit my draw and villian picks up a ton of ways to make second best hand. But the board pairs. I think I did the right thing putting him all in.

Results:
Final pot: $27.25

How bad was this?

Re: A 25PL hand played badly on every street except possibly the river
 

A 25PL hand played badly on every street except possibly the river

Re: A 25PL hand played badly on every street except possibly the river
 

if you float the flop I think you need to raise the turn if you get a draw or not, also remember that isn't such a monster draw... you only hit it 20% of the time so a turn raise I think is a good spot for a semibluff.

You say you don't think you want a fold. Remember, you currently have ace high with 9 outs, I think you're about 30% to win on this turn (and that's being optimistic) and he's shown weakness.

Re: A 25PL hand played badly on every street except possibly the river
 

Turn call might be OK.

Yes, everything else sucks.

Re: A 25PL hand played badly on every street except possibly the river
 

I thought the turn call was the worst part, not the best.
obviously I had odds for the call, but-

I believe I have 14 outs, so only 28% to win a showdown, with a weak player I'm pretty sure I can take this away from on the turn. That was why I called the flop, after all, not to spike an A or a draw. I would have done this with any two cards against this opponent.

worse, this is PL, so even if I do hit I can't get all his money in unless I put a bet in here, barring a big bet from him, which I have no reason to believe is forthcoming.

Re: A 25PL hand played badly on every street except possibly the river
 

If you want to steal on turn, after calling flop, then please do it? Why calling on turn still. Make a play yo.

Re: A 25PL hand played badly on every street except possibly the river
 

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If you want to steal on turn, after calling flop, then please do it? Why calling on turn still. Make a play yo.

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Exactly. My hand got better (but not good enough) and I forgot what I was doing.

Re: A 25PL hand played badly on every street except possibly the river
 

I think you are making a subtle point (not sure if it's intentional) that your analysis of a hand afterwards contains much better poker than when you play at the time.. I used to do this a lot, look back on hands and say "hmm, that's terrible". I don't know if I've fixed that yet

I think the key is to consciously make a note of the thought process you go through when analysing a hand (write it down maybe) and tey to go through that when playing.

I think if you can learn this transferring skill then feedback on 2+2 and the feedback you give yourself when you look back at hands become much stronger to help your play.!