one of the sicker calls i\'ve seen in a while (bryce vs. schnibl0r)
 

Full Tilt Poker Game #3970242759: Table Vina (heads up) - $1000/$2000 - Limit Hold'em - 3:15:09 ET - 2007/10/26
Seat 1: ScHnibL0r ($167,602)
Seat 2: Freedom25 ($59,916)
Freedom25 posts the small blind of $500
ScHnibL0r posts the big blind of $1,000
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Freedom25 raises to $2,000
ScHnibL0r calls $1,000
*** FLOP *** [Td Ad 7h]
ScHnibL0r checks
Freedom25 bets $1,000
ScHnibL0r raises to $2,000
Freedom25 raises to $3,000
ScHnibL0r calls $1,000
*** TURN *** [Td Ad 7h] [5h]
ScHnibL0r checks
Freedom25 bets $2,000
ScHnibL0r calls $2,000
*** RIVER *** [Td Ad 7h 5h] [2h]
ScHnibL0r checks
Freedom25 bets $2,000
ScHnibL0r calls $2,000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Freedom25 shows [8d 9c] Ace Ten high
ScHnibL0r shows [Qs Jc] Ace Queen high
ScHnibL0r wins the pot ($17,999.50) with Ace Queen high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $18,000 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Td Ad 7h 5h 2h]
Seat 1: ScHnibL0r (big blind) showed [Qs Jc] and won ($17,999.50) with Ace Queen high
Seat 2: Freedom25 (small blind) showed [8d 9c] and lost with Ace Ten high

Re: one of the sicker calls i\'ve seen in a while (bryce vs. schnibl0r)
 

Don't watch limit often?

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limit

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This is pretty sick. It's not standard.

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a) they dont fold
b) good odds
c) poo fling
d) all

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should have posted in mhsh.

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its wp by schniblor imo.

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its wp by schniblor imo.

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agreed. when B bets the river his range is polarized to top pair+ or a missed draw. schnib beats all the missed draws and he's getting like 8:1. it's actually not that sick now that i look at it.

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limit

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Seat 1: ScHnibL0r (big blind) showed [Qs Jc] and won ($your net worth) with Ace Queen high
Seat 2: Freedom25 (small blind) showed [8d 9c] and lost with Ace Ten high

Re: one of the sicker calls i\'ve seen in a while (bryce vs. schnibl0r)
 

I don`t believe in sick calls anymore.
I believe in superusers now.

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its wp by schniblor imo.

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agreed. when B bets the river his range is polarized to top pair+ or a missed draw. schnib beats all the missed draws and he's getting like 8:1. it's actually not that sick now that i look at it.

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Never played Bryce but I really disagree with this. Against a lot of guys Ax is hardly in their range here so Bryce could be 3 betting flop and value betting several worse pairs.

-DeathDonkey

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Looks like snHnib has said goodbye to ~half a cool mill today, half v bryce and half v joe cassidy. who will he play next, hoss schneids and gehrig?!

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limit

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Seat 1: ScHnibL0r (big blind) showed [Qs Jc] and won ($your net worth) with Ace Queen high
Seat 2: Freedom25 (small blind) showed [8d 9c] and lost with Ace Ten high

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You havent heard? Ike makes like 6 figures a year becuase he went on a mega heater on AP....I thought hed made sure all of 2p2 knew this by now.

Ike, youre slacking bud....get back on the thinly veiled brags

Re: one of the sicker calls i\'ve seen in a while (bryce vs. schnibl0r)
 

how can you say this is standard. any ace, ten or 7 bets. also, freedom was not 3 betting the flop light at that point in the match.

although this is NVG so.........

Re: one of the sicker calls i\'ve seen in a while (bryce vs. schnibl0r)
 

schnibl0r busto.
confirm/deny?

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[ ] Not that sick...TMO

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schnibl0r busto.
confirm/deny?

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Looks like it.. I left 3 tables open where he played before going out and when I returned here are the balances before the last hands (which schniblor of course lost):

Seat 1: ScHnibL0r ($7,932.50)
Seat 2: Freedom25 ($499,256)

Seat 1: Nizot Skizared ($199,437)
Seat 2: ScHnibL0r ($11,959.50)

Seat 4: ScHnibL0r ($3,994)
Seat 5: Nizot Skizared ($294,879)

Doesnt look too good for him [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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its wp by schniblor imo.

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agreed. when B bets the river his range is polarized to top pair+ or a missed draw. schnib beats all the missed draws and he's getting like 8:1. it's actually not that sick now that i look at it.

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I would expect T-J, to be a pretty standard value bet for bryce on the river not knowing any history. Is there some reason to think otherwise?

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schnibl0r busto.
confirm/deny?

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Looks like it.. I left 3 tables open where he played before going out and when I returned here are the balances before the last hands (which schniblor of course lost):

Seat 1: ScHnibL0r ($7,932.50)
Seat 2: Freedom25 ($499,256)

Seat 1: Nizot Skizared ($199,437)
Seat 2: ScHnibL0r ($11,959.50)

Seat 4: ScHnibL0r ($3,994)
Seat 5: Nizot Skizared ($294,879)

Doesnt look too good for him [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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wow thats rape

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turn shoulda went check/check

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schniblor got decimated yday, i only had 2 of the 3 tables datamined and it looks like he lost 500k ish

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i knew before opening the thread that the answer was "limit"

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agreed. when B bets the river his range is polarized to top pair+ or a missed draw. schnib beats all the missed draws and he's getting like 8:1.

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you don't beat high stakes HU playing that straightforward

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limit

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shoulda bet more than 2k on the end

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i knew before opening the thread that the answer was "limit"

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Bryce and limit? Nowai!

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didn't someone on AP call with ten high the other day?

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didn't someone on AP call with ten high the other day?

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its wp by schniblor imo.

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agreed. when B bets the river his range is polarized to top pair+ or a missed draw. schnib beats all the missed draws and he's getting like 8:1. it's actually not that sick now that i look at it.

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Never played Bryce but I really disagree with this. Against a lot of guys Ax is hardly in their range here so Bryce could be 3 betting flop and value betting several worse pairs.

-DeathDonkey

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you're right that B would/could play a ten or JJ-KK like this but even adding in those combos i think it's a call on the river getting 8:1

Re: one of the sicker calls i\'ve seen in a while (bryce vs. schnibl0r)
 

[x] limit
[ ] possible to make 'sick calls' in limit

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agreed. when B bets the river his range is polarized to top pair+ or a missed draw. schnib beats all the missed draws and he's getting like 8:1. it's actually not that sick now that i look at it.

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I would expect T-J, to be a pretty standard value bet for bryce on the river not knowing any history. Is there some reason to think otherwise?

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No imo

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I've seen bryce take this flop line on an ace high board with bottom or middle pair but he always hit a running 2pair/full house so I dunno if he would bet the river UI or not

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I've seen bryce take this flop line on an ace high board with bottom or middle pair but he always hit a running 2pair/full house so I dunno if he would bet the river UI or not

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lolo

btw is this standard for people in bryce's spot?

Re: one of the sicker calls i\'ve seen in a while (bryce vs. schnibl0r)
 

Bryce's first name?

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The

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Who is the better limit player - Hoss or 'the' Bryce?

Re: one of the sicker calls i\'ve seen in a while (bryce vs. schnibl0r)
 

they don't play eachother afaik, dunno what the situation is

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Sometimes limit is just really sick!!

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agreed. when B bets the river his range is polarized to top pair+ or a missed draw. schnib beats all the missed draws and he's getting like 8:1. it's actually not that sick now that i look at it.

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Never played Bryce but I really disagree with this. Against a lot of guys Ax is hardly in their range here so Bryce could be 3 betting flop and value betting several worse pairs.

-DeathDonkey

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yeah most good players in shorthanded and heads up games will have fairly depolarized ranges in most situations, and this is one of them