Two Plus Two Newer Archives

Two Plus Two Newer Archives (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/index.php)
-   Small Stakes Shorthanded (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24)
-   -   Donkfold river? (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=454179)

Guy McSucker 07-18-2007 11:56 AM

Donkfold river?
 
Awesome Stars $5/10 table. MP is a 24/16 TAG, kind of predictable. CO is a nutcase: my note just says "does everything wrong" because he's too aggressive with weak made hands, too passive with strong made hands, limps too much, calls along too much etc etc. SB is 65/50/1 and also does everything wrong.

I have black aces in the BB.

MP, CO and SB limp. I raise and they all call.

Flop is 764 with two diamonds. SB checks, I bet, MP raises, two calls, I threebet, MP caps, call, call.

I have never seen him put in this much action: he either has a strong made hand (two pair or better) or a strong draw. I don't think he'd have a straight on this board. I am quite worried about a set but I am showing down unless things turn ugly.

Turn is offsuit 9. SB checks, I check, he bets, call, call, I call.

River is another offsuit 9. SB checks.

I just overtook flopped two pairs. None of the strong draws came in. MP must put me on an overpair and might check two pair behind. CO, for all his silliness, doesn't fire much on the river.

Should I donk here? What if MP raises?

Guy.

jba 07-18-2007 12:02 PM

Re: Donkfold river?
 
i would c/r the turn here honestly. mp probably has a big pair.

edit: once you get to the river I would not donk and I would think about folding for two bets. the nines pairing is kind of bad news after the flop action.

Borno 07-18-2007 12:06 PM

Re: Donkfold river?
 
raise/fold the turn, b/c the river.

There are too many drawes that you gotta charge in this big ass pot, I don't care about reverse implied odds b/c they can't all be on the same draw and if they are the odds are in your favour.

Any 3 bet = set or striaght either way fold

River, if you get raised it sucks but the pot is so damn big

yourface 07-18-2007 12:07 PM

Re: Donkfold river?
 
I doubt MP has a big PP, he'd be retarded not to l/rr preflop when it is multiway

a speculative hand is most likely imo

jba 07-18-2007 12:08 PM

Re: Donkfold river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I doubt MP has a big PP, he'd be retarded not to l/rr preflop when it is multiway

[/ QUOTE ]

oops i forgot we raised, I quit posting now

Guy McSucker 07-18-2007 12:23 PM

Re: Donkfold river?
 
[ QUOTE ]

edit: once you get to the river I would not donk and I would think about folding for two bets. the nines pairing is kind of bad news after the flop action.


[/ QUOTE ]

I totally agree with the last sentence. There's a decent chance someone has 98 or something. On the other hand the nines pairing will also freeze up a lot of hands so I wondered whether a donk was my best chance of getting a bet in when I am ahead.

sharpie 07-18-2007 09:06 PM

Re: Donkfold river?
 
I don't see how MP can have 2 pair on that board, he wouldn't open limp 76s with 2 nutjobs behind him. The river didn't help us so check/call.

synbad13 07-19-2007 01:07 AM

Re: Donkfold river?
 
Seems like the TAG probably has a flush draw or a set.

It seems to me like the EV is probably strongest when you Bet/Fold (I don't think he's going to bluff raise the river... that would be pretty out of line for almost any player).

However, because I seem to be incappable of folding a hand like this on the river, I normally just check/call.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:51 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.