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NYTyler 11-06-2007 07:50 PM

BB...nice flop for me....how much to raise here?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t4108)
Hero (t13540)
UTG (t8674)
UTG+1 (t12940)
MP1 (t2530)
MP2 (t5850)
CO (t13265)
Button (t12425)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t200, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t200, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t800) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t350</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t900</font>, Button folds, SB calls t900, Hero?

No reads here as I was just moved to the table a few hands ago. Obviously I want a call here but what bet size...reraise to 2.5K-3K? Shove here?

Popped Rod 11-06-2007 08:00 PM

Re: BB...nice flop for me....how much to raise here?
 
Re-raise to t2700.

Otherwise, smooth call and CR AI any non-Ace flop. (I'd be careful of someone having T9 tho).

BigZag 11-06-2007 08:15 PM

Re: BB...nice flop for me....how much to raise here?
 
I think a shove here is probably best. The pot currently is at 2850, the most likely scenario here is that utg+1 has 109-a10 and the button has an OESD.

Lets say you raise the pot 2850 on the flop and get 1 caller. what cards will be scare cards: 6,7,8,j,q,k. All these cards complete possible OESD. So thats 24 possible scare cards on the turn when you're probably shoving regardless.

I think the problem is that the button may have 78,j8 or qj and theres really no way of knowing which one of these hands he has, so if he decides to peel one off calling a pot sized raise on the flop for implied odds, half the deck leaves you feeling uncomfortable on the turn.

I think there's enough chips in the pot to just shove and take it down now.

hamnegger 11-07-2007 12:43 AM

Re: BB...nice flop for me....how much to raise here?
 
just shove

M1cKmAcK 11-07-2007 02:13 AM

Re: BB...nice flop for me....how much to raise here?
 
usually utg+1 isnt calling with 10-9. K10+ is probably what he has.... get it all in on flop...

SuperUberBob 11-07-2007 02:18 AM

Re: BB...nice flop for me....how much to raise here?
 
Smooth call then raise all-in on the turn or check/shove turn


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