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Ranger_Trivette 11-15-2007 07:00 PM

I got confused, folded, and felt like a moron afterwards.
 
2nd orbit, never played this villain before. Is this standard vs unknown? Or do we shove this?
I just dont see what he limps in, and then tries to get it in with.
I felt really bad about this fold afterwards.
A9, 66, 99, A6 should all have raised preflop, 100 hands later he plays 20/10.


SB: $34.41
Hero (BB): $96.46
UTG: $80.14
MP: $113.70
CO: $105.20
BTN: $38.25

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, MP calls $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($3) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $10</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $7

Turn: ($23) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $21.85</font>, Hero folds

Results: $23 Pot
MP mucked and WON $43.70 (+$32.70 NET)

Chicago Twister 11-15-2007 07:01 PM

Re: I got confused, folded, and felt like a moron afterwards.
 
I would have pushed somewhere

Ranger_Trivette 11-15-2007 07:21 PM

Re: I got confused, folded, and felt like a moron afterwards.
 
What hand do we beat that villain is limping in? 78s? T8s maybe?

BigZag 11-15-2007 07:29 PM

Re: I got confused, folded, and felt like a moron afterwards.
 
I don't think this is a standard fold vs. unknown. Seems more like a standard flop shove. You beat many more hands in his range that you lose to. I think this fold is weak/tight.

I think all aces outside of ak,aq possibly aj are in his range as well as flush draws and the offchance of 78. Shoving the flop after getting raised seems by far the best option.

Montezuma21 11-15-2007 07:34 PM

Re: I got confused, folded, and felt like a moron afterwards.
 
any clubs, 78, any ace, etc. getting it in on the flop in a limped pot isn't great tbh because your equity is likely to be low even against an unknown.
i think calling the flop raise and CRAI a non-A/club/T/5 turn is a very good way of increasing your equity against his range of hands.

Shizzle12345 11-15-2007 07:45 PM

Re: I got confused, folded, and felt like a moron afterwards.
 
flush draws, aces, jesus this is obvious push. Just think what you would do with AK here, then do the same with freaking 2 pair.

spivey 11-15-2007 07:51 PM

Re: I got confused, folded, and felt like a moron afterwards.
 
I don't think this fold is that bad. You led for pot in a limped pot, I doubt he's raising Ax or a draw unless it's a combo draw.

orange 11-15-2007 07:57 PM

Re: I got confused, folded, and felt like a moron afterwards.
 
i dont think fold is tremendously bad either. i sometimes c/c the turn and c/f river sometimes.

Shizzle12345 11-15-2007 07:58 PM

Re: I got confused, folded, and felt like a moron afterwards.
 
lol i thought it was a raised pot, in that case I agree with Orange.

sh58 11-15-2007 09:27 PM

Re: I got confused, folded, and felt like a moron afterwards.
 
i try and get it in on the flop here.

as played i would call the turn bet and call another river bet unless the river is really yucky


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