Stud8 - playing a pair of J
 

Does this thread seem to have a similar title? Anyway, playing high pairs is one of the trickier parts of the game so...

How did I do here? Seat 7 is aggressive, and I feel he is def going for cr on 4th and will bet 5th 100 % of the time whether he has a low draw or aces or something worse

7 Card Stud High-Low ($8/$16), Ante $1,50, Bring-In $2 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.13 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___completes

4th Street - (3.13 SB)

Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks

5th Street - (1.56 BB)

Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street - (3.56 BB)

Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

River - (5.56 BB)

Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___checks
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks

Total pot: (5.56 BB - $89)

Re: Stud8 - playing a pair of J
 

3rd through 6th is standard. 7th is cloose. i'd probably bet sometimes.

Re: Stud8 - playing a pair of J
 

Would it be wrong to fold 5th? You say villain is aggro but lots of hands are ahead of your measly jacks.

Re: Stud8 - playing a pair of J
 

he pretty much would have to have aces or trips for us to be significantly behind

Re: Stud8 - playing a pair of J
 

I would guess his most likely hands are four to a low or a pair of Aces.

I think 5th would be a fold if our opponent had caught another low card on 5th instead of the T, correct?

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he pretty much would have to have aces or trips for us to be significantly behind

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Re: Stud8 - playing a pair of J
 

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Would it be wrong to fold 5th? You say villain is aggro but lots of hands are ahead of your measly jacks.

[/ QUOTE ]Yes, that would be incredibly bad as we raised in steal position with a good hand and got a check when our opponent caught a clear betting card as well as us under repping our hand further.

If anything we should be considering a raise. His range should contain a lot of hands we beat.

Re: Stud8 - playing a pair of J
 

I quite like a river bet here, seeing as you have no open pair. If he is folding the 2 pair hands you beat, then surely he also folds aces up, so it works as a bluff. If he calls with aces up then surely he calls with all 2 pair hands, so it works as a value bet. I think?