Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
 

Why is this not stickied?

Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
 

Sticky...? hello?

Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
 

Maybe someone can use that alert modifier thingy...I can never find that link.

Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
 

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Tight range:
Flush (9s8s will do for pokerstove, a flush is a flush and we have no redraw anyway so its fine)


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Newbie, I like your idea here, but I think that letting 9s8s stand in for all possible flushes in the pokerstove analysis is a big mistake. He would obviously play all flushes pretty much the same way, and there are a large number of other flushes he could have. Therefore a bigger part of both the tight range and the optimistic range will be flushes, and your equity calculations will shift accordingly.

Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
 

Bump for sticky.

Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
 

bump for continued strategy talk, not sticky...

Re: Whats his range?
 

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Since I spoke up I'll try one . . .


A dry one- Vill is 44/13/1.35 over 136 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($24.50)
Hero ($37.75)
SB ($34.60)
BB ($49.85)
UTG ($16)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Assign a range.

I know this is a sad starter, but I searched my database(which made me sad- I suck, good thing others suck more) for others and had a hard time finding good ones. Probably because im tired.

Ret

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his range here is pretty wide and you will narrow his range when u bet again on the turn. AGAIN aba o rgalfond i forgot which one once said that villains range changes when the turn card is dealt.

Re: PNL Study Group Day 7: The REM Process \"Intro\" and \"R is for Range
 

Let's add some substance (albeit derived from a small sample).

A) Range analysis (using Holdem Manager and Excel) based on:
1 Sample of hands played by "winning" players during August.
2 Specifically, those players whose pre-flop raising frequency is &gt;12.7% and &lt;= 15.1% (percentage range represents mid 30% percentile).
3 Hands all involved 6 players playing $1-$2 no-limit at 6-max tables located at one particular site.

B) Estimated Range Distribution for Big Blind Position
1 Pre Flop Raise (7%, VPIP 14%)
45%.........88+
40%.........AJ+
11%.........KJ+
4%..........other

2 Re-raise (5.3%)
50%.........99+
42%.........AQ+
5%..........KQ
3%..........other

3 Cold Call (11.3%)
25%.........88-22
24%.........AJs-A2s
21%.........J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, JT-76o
=70%
12%.........KJs+, KQo
8%..........AQ-ATo
4%..........JJ-99
7%..........other

C) Usage
1 Analysis repeated as more hands come in (and this helps to embed into memory).
2 Starting point where players fitting profile unknown.
3 Ranges individualised as players fitting profile become known.

D) Note
1 Sample size for this profile is 30 "winning" players (minimum number of hands for each player is 1,000).
2 Analysis carried out for other positions, and for upper/lower 35% percentiles.
3 Not claiming calculations are error free, nor analysis devoid of improvement.

D) Finally
Point being made is you do not have to rely on your own experience.