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Exsubmariner 06-25-2007 10:52 AM

Shock: IRS says 16th Amendment was Ratified
 
An article about legal scholars.

Apparently, the IRS has listed the 42 anti-tax arguments on their website and debunked them all.

From the article:

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As a historian, York said, it's clear to him that the issue has been settled. "This has been adjudicated at the U.S. Supreme Court level, and they're the ones that in fact decide whether the laws are constitutional, and they've decided that in fact the 16th Amendment is constitutional."

Stephen Black is a professor at Franklin Pierce Law Center in Concord, and an expert in tax law. For years, he, too, has heard the arguments that there's no legal basis for federal income taxes.

He noted the IRS lists and refutes "all of the anti-tax arguments that have been collected over the years" on its Web site. (Search for "frivolous tax arguments" on irs.gov.)


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I'm going to find this on the IRS site and link to it later. This is a major blow against the international banker conspiracist theories if the article is in fact accurate.

Interesting, though, that apparently the pop theory has gained enough traction that the IRS is now putting effort into refuting it. Before, they just ignored it as kook nonsense.

CORed 06-25-2007 03:07 PM

Re: Shock: IRS says 16th Amendment was Ratified
 
I'm not a big fan of the income tax, but all of the tax protesters' goofy arguments about why you don't really have to pay income tax never cease to amaze and amuse me. The bottom line is, if you intentionally don't pay your taxes and get caught, you are going to go to prison. Your personal opinion of whether the 16th amendment was properly ratified, or that "voluntary compliance" means that you don't have to pay if you don't want to is not going to help. Federal judges know where their salary comes from and with decades of precedents behind them, the chance that any of them are going to buy into the latest tinfoil hat legal theory and overturn the whole federal tax system is approximately the same as your chance of winning two consecutive Powerball lotteries.

Borodog 06-25-2007 03:57 PM

Re: Shock: IRS says 16th Amendment was Ratified
 
To paraphrase Ron Paul on the issue, it doesn't matter whether or not there's a law; they've got the guns.

GoodCallYouWin 06-25-2007 04:16 PM

Re: Shock: IRS says 16th Amendment was Ratified
 
"tax never cease to amaze and amuse me"

I am sure that when the Federal Agents finally execute Ed Brown, he will find comfort in the fact that his matyrdom amused you.

bobman0330 06-25-2007 04:21 PM

Re: Shock: IRS says 16th Amendment was Ratified
 
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"tax never cease to amaze and amuse me"

I am sure that when the Federal Agents finally execute Ed Brown, he will find comfort in the fact that his matyrdom amused you.

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Can you be a martyr for greed and insanity?

ojc02 06-26-2007 08:50 PM

Re: Shock: IRS says 16th Amendment was Ratified
 
[ QUOTE ]
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"tax never cease to amaze and amuse me"

I am sure that when the Federal Agents finally execute Ed Brown, he will find comfort in the fact that his matyrdom amused you.

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Can you be a martyr for greed and insanity?

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Greed = not wanting 50% of what you earn taken from you?

QuadsOverQuads 06-26-2007 10:19 PM

Re: Shock: IRS says 16th Amendment was Ratified
 

News Flash:

The 16th Amendment was ratified and is in the Constitution.


In other news:

Gravity still in effect, sky still blue.


We now return you to 5 radical right-wingers spamming the usual meritless nonsense.


q/q

NickMPK 06-26-2007 10:49 PM

Re: Shock: IRS says 16th Amendment was Ratified
 

The Supreme Court decided that the 16th Amendment is constitutional? How could a constitutional amendment possibly be unconstitutional?

Brainwalter 06-26-2007 10:53 PM

Re: Shock: IRS says 16th Amendment was Ratified
 
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News Flash:

The 16th Amendment was ratified and is in the Constitution.


In other news:

Gravity still in effect, sky still blue.


We now return you to 5 radical right-wingers spamming the usual meritless nonsense.


q/q

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You make it sound as if ANYONE on this board based an argument on the 16th amendment being not ratified/invalid/whatever.

BTW ex, post the IRS article, there are one or two tax protestor arguments I would actually like to see debunked.

ojc02 06-26-2007 11:01 PM

Re: Shock: IRS says 16th Amendment was Ratified
 
GIYF

IRS Tax debunking page


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