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Insp. Clue!So? 09-10-2007 02:05 PM

Christianity in a nutshell:
 
If it's wrong, in what way? (no fair claiming merely it is "unkind" rhetorically)


"Christianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree."

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Subfallen 09-10-2007 02:22 PM

Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
 
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If it's wrong, in what way? (no fair claiming merely it is "unkind" rhetorically)

"Christianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree."

unknown

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This is kind of petty I think. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Anyways, you have it all inverted. According to Christianity, the Sacrament of Communion is not symbolic, while everything else in that post is probably better understood as symbolic.

To summarize Christianity you only need five words: "Love your neighbor as yourself." All possibility of human virtue falls away in the face of this commandment, and that void is the point of departure for Christianity. Even as an atheist, I think this ideal deserves high reverence. Not sure why nobody else on here agrees with me, not even the "Christians."

Insp. Clue!So? 09-10-2007 02:40 PM

Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
 
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If it's wrong, in what way? (no fair claiming merely it is "unkind" rhetorically)

"Christianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree."

unknown

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This is kind of petty I think. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Anyways, you have it all inverted. According to Christianity, the Sacrament of Communion is not symbolic, while everything else in that post is probably better understood as symbolic.

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So you are making the physically-testable claim that bread and wine are actually converted into flesh and blood? Or does God instantly go Zappo! just at the moment when our instruments would make the necessary measurements, thus retaining "The Mystery"?

As for petty I think the descriptions are a thousand times more honest/accurate than those given by the faithful, who have or are vulverable to all sorts of hype and pr-related adjustments of what is a rather strange, nonsensical, tale (which in turn was taken from several other strange, non-sensical older such tales along with contemporary flavorings that continue to be added to this day).

Subfallen 09-10-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
 
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So you are making the physically-testable claim that bread and wine are actually converted into flesh and blood?

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Did you read the rest of my post? I'm an atheist, I'm not making any claim at all, I'm just telling you what actual Christians believe.

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As for petty I think the descriptions are a thousand times more honest/accurate than those given by the faithful, who have or are vulverable to all sorts of hype and pr-related adjustments of what is a rather strange, nonsensical, tale (which in turn was taken from several other strange, non-sensical older such tales along with contemporary flavorings that continue to be added to this day).

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You are incorrect, as I tried to point out by emphasizing the existential implications of Christianity's highest commandment. Christianity cannot be understood as a rational belief system. It is nonrational. Treating it like a rational belief system is like trying to understand Pulp Fiction by reading a print-out of the voltage patterns in your computer's RAM while it plays the movie.

vhawk01 09-10-2007 03:04 PM

Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If it's wrong, in what way? (no fair claiming merely it is "unkind" rhetorically)

"Christianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree."

unknown

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This is kind of petty I think. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Anyways, you have it all inverted. According to Christianity, the Sacrament of Communion is not symbolic, while everything else in that post is probably better understood as symbolic.

To summarize Christianity you only need five words: "Love your neighbor as yourself." All possibility of human virtue falls away in the face of this commandment, and that void is the point of departure for Christianity. Even as an atheist, I think this ideal deserves high reverence. Not sure why nobody else on here agrees with me, not even the "Christians."

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If you remove "as yourself" I might have a little sympathy for it. I'd still need more qualifiers though, since I live next to smokers.

Subfallen 09-10-2007 03:14 PM

Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
 
Lol, nice. But that's the whole point. It's the one commandment that is clearly impossible to obey.

oe39 09-10-2007 03:16 PM

Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If it's wrong, in what way? (no fair claiming merely it is "unkind" rhetorically)

"Christianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree."

unknown

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This is kind of petty I think. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Anyways, you have it all inverted. According to Christianity, the Sacrament of Communion is not symbolic, while everything else in that post is probably better understood as symbolic.

To summarize Christianity you only need five words: "Love your neighbor as yourself." All possibility of human virtue falls away in the face of this commandment, and that void is the point of departure for Christianity. Even as an atheist, I think this ideal deserves high reverence. Not sure why nobody else on here agrees with me, not even the "Christians."

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this quote wasn't intended to mean what you claim it does...

Subfallen 09-10-2007 03:22 PM

Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
 
Well, forgive me, that "unknown" attribution provided way too much context for my tiny mind to handle. :/

Archon_Wing 09-10-2007 04:47 PM

Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If it's wrong, in what way? (no fair claiming merely it is "unkind" rhetorically)

"Christianity is the belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree."

unknown

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This is kind of petty I think. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Anyways, you have it all inverted. According to Christianity, the Sacrament of Communion is not symbolic, while everything else in that post is probably better understood as symbolic.

To summarize Christianity you only need five words: "Love your neighbor as yourself." All possibility of human virtue falls away in the face of this commandment, and that void is the point of departure for Christianity. Even as an atheist, I think this ideal deserves high reverence. Not sure why nobody else on here agrees with me, not even the "Christians."

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I suppose I can accept Christianity as that. Sure, bashing Bible literalists is fun, but that gets a bit too boring and we really don't go anywhere doing that . It's mostly a defensive mechanism for myself when we get a theist suddenly accusing me of non-morality. (Oh yea? Well your book says... etc)

David Sklansky 09-10-2007 08:30 PM

Re: Christianity in a nutshell:
 


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To summarize Christianity you only need five words: "Love your neighbor as yourself." ... Even as an atheist, I think this ideal deserves high reverence.

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WAIT A SECOND. When asked to describe the JEWISH bible a renowned Rabbi said: "The whole of Torah is this: what is hateful to you, do not do to others. All the rest is commentary."

Having the same summary for these two different religions can't be kosher.


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