Re: getting fast cars in automatic....
 

OP, the DSG in the GTI is sick and it's an awesome car. I have the less cool version in a stick(Rabbit), love it, but drive my friend's DSG all the time and it's awesome.

That said, learn to drive a stick because it's fun as hell even if you go with an auto or autoish transmission.

Some decent advice in this thread, so just go with whatever fits your lifestyle best.

Re: getting fast cars in automatic....
 

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People don't override superior systems to implement inferior systems.

The implication is that at least in some situations the manual transmission is superior.

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Since the default is automatic wouldn't that imply that automatic transmissions are superior in most situations then.

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People don't override superior systems to implement inferior systems.

The implication is that at least in some situations the manual transmission is superior.

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Since the default is automatic wouldn't that imply that automatic transmissions are superior in most situations then.

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Something that I meant to post earlier but forgot. In cars with automatic transmissions that allow the driver to shift manually, it is has been shown in most track tests that straight line performance numbers are better with the car in full automatic mode.

While some may take this to mean that manual shifting is inferior, all it really shows is that manual shift options on automatic transmissions are really only there to allow people who are too lazy to operate a stick to play around with the manual mode. There is no performance benefit present in any of the auto/stick transmissions (remember, I'm talking about automatics, not paddle shifted manuals), except that they allow the driver to downshift going into a corner the way a manual would.

Manual shifting autos are a gimmick. The fact that a transmission designed to shift itself does better in automatic mode than it does when the manual feature is engaged does not imply that manual transmissions are inferior. There is really nothing to be gained by comparing auto/stick transmissions to manual transmissions.

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People don't override superior systems to implement inferior systems.

The implication is that at least in some situations the manual transmission is superior.

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Since the default is automatic wouldn't that imply that automatic transmissions are superior in most situations then.

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I assume you mean the default.. option on new cars? Cuz I'd guess this is so because they cost more, or because more people have automatics/it's the mainstream.

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Since the default is automatic wouldn't that imply that automatic transmissions are superior in most situations then.

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That's probably because people are lazy and suck at stuff by default.

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how is that? I feel its the only way if you dont want to totally destroy the transmission over time. We are not talking 5 degrees decline here but San Francisco or equivalent.

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I live in Pittsburgh, and I use the hand brake rarely.

I don't have any clue what you are doing with it at every stop.

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I usually just park in gear.

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Also, I grew up driving in a town that is basically 4 hills, and there's some brutal intersections. I've never felt the need to use e-brake, that's weird.

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Manual FTW
http://onfinite.com/libraries/1215035/e63.jpg
I probably drive it suboptimally, but it's still fun. and F the Subaru hater.

Re: getting fast cars in automatic....
 

Come on man learn to drive a stick, its not that hard. You will be so much happier in the long run!