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If you picked up a 'super user account' would you play 96/70? seriously, how stupid do people get? The hands that I have seen are so blatantly obvious..

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I guess its good they werent smart about it, so they didnt win any more $$.

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Ya but nothing stops them from making 2-3 new accounts that may be smarter this time. You can basically never trust the site again...

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I think a sticky should be made on every poker related forum....at least until there is a suitable response from AP.

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i honestly can't get over how many people actually believe there are super accounts

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i honestly can't get over how many people actually believe there are super accounts

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Oh I know for a fact that other sites have used them. I'm not going to name names, but in the boom there were online casinos with poker sites that for sure used them. At the conferences in vegas when the 24 year old kids from those places would get 2 bottles of goose in them, you'd hear the stories. I just never thought any of the big players would still be doing it. But I promise you this idea of a person who can see the cards is not some fantasy.

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i honestly can't get over how many people actually believe there are super accounts

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In that case I'll trade you my AP money for some Stars or FTP money.

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i honestly can't get over how many people actually believe there are super accounts

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In that case I'll trade you my AP money for some Stars or FTP money.

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i can't win on any site why would i play poker

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i honestly can't get over how many people actually believe there are super accounts

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In that case I'll trade you my AP money for some Stars or FTP money.

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i can't win on any site why would i play poker

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The games will be good, most of the biggest winners on AP are all quitting the site, even with the fact they've won money on it. You'll have a good shot.

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I don't think it is so much that the potripper/graycat/doubledrag accounts themselves have always been superaccounts from AB with the ability to see holecards. These accounts have been huge losers in the past.
Could have been accounts AB ppl used to chipdump and also keep high stakes players happy. Employees dump AB revenue into these accounts and dump off to 3rd party personal accounts.

Someone proposed that it is more likely that there is an account that can observe and see all of the holecards but cannot play. This used in conjunction with the doubledrag accounts would make sense but why the blatant abuse directly after an update? It is possible that the update created the rabbit cam it might be coincidence. The behavior exhibited by these accounts is pretty much what I would expect from some introverted support/tech nerd with no common sense and a very basic understanding of poker. He gets caught then tries to emulate his play style but in a losing fashion much like an amateur theif will try to cover up a crime. This really looks like an inside job or rogue employee(s) gone wrong but AB will have to come forward for anything definitive.

The reason I don't think it could be a hacker/trojan is that the accounts clearly had large amounts of money before the update. Some rich whale who donks around wouldn't be hacking computers most likely. A bot maker who went into hacking AB might have the capital to fund the accounts but would have a good enough understanding of poker not to just blow it. A hacker smart enough to crack the site might blow it due to a misunderstanding of the game but the chances of this seem very low because its almost common sense to milk something like this.

One thing that is for sure though is that these 3 accounts could see holecards, they took full advantage for as long as they could, they then dumped the money.

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interesting stuff......

I haven't read much but I'll have to once I get back from my meeting.

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i haven't seen this posted anywhere else so...

From thepokerdb.com

MTT results for Greytcat
9 MTT sat tourneys entered 2 wins

MTT results for Pottripper
4 MTTs entered 1 win for $30,000