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czGLoRy 11-17-2007 09:11 PM

NL $100: Overpairs: Leaky? Spewy? HELP!
 
Ok.. I have been stacked (or lost significantly) with every overpair I have had today. I think this may be a major leak. I would really appreciate some reviews here (I play them differently based on what I think is happening.. I will explain some here)

Critique all streets appreciated.

#1.(Villain is 56/18/6. He has shown a tendency to pot the flop AND turn as a bluff. Never seen him show down a hand he was value-betting. I believe this was my worst-played overpair, but I can't really think of a good line to take.)

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $510.80
BTN: $40
Hero (SB): $160.70
BB: $90
UTG: $195.50
MP: $59.95

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $8, MP folds

Flop: ($23) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $23</font>, Hero calls $23

Turn: ($69) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $69</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $127.70 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $58.70

River: ($324.40) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $324.40 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$160.70 NET)
UTG showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Tens) and WON $321.40 (+$160.70 NET)


#2. Villain pots the flop, turn, and river with any pair. (yes, really, and 100% of the time). I figure I am way ahead of his range on the flop, I am not concerned about SB, and am going for a big raise on a brick river.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 PL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $178.20
SB: $163.20
BB: $111.05
Hero (UTG): $109.05
CO: $209.70

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($10.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $5.25</font>, Hero calls $5.25, SB folds

Turn: ($21) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $21</font>, Hero calls $21

River: ($63) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $63</font>, Hero folds

Results: $63 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB mucked and WON $60 (+$30.25 NET)


#3. Every once in a while, I implement limping in my game, for specific reasons. Here, I did it because the button raises 100% of the time (48/30) there are limpers to him, and he can't fold "pretty" hands, like broadway, suited aces, etc. He has no hand-reading skills whatsoever and is strictly level 1.
Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $106
Hero (CO): $97
BTN: $151.45
SB: $40
BB: $130.70
UTG: $118.65

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, Hero calls $1, <font color="red">BTN raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, BTN calls $8

Flop: ($25.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $70.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $85 and is All-In</font>, BTN calls $14.50

Turn: ($195.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($195.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $195.50 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$97 NET)
BTN showed J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Jacks) and WON $192.50 (+$95.50 NET)


Thoughts? Please don't post DONT LIMP or something, unless you have a reason. I limped KK to induce a button raise-- if you feel I misplayed for a reason, let me know (consider my reads/thoughts).

Thanks for the input.

pineapple888 11-17-2007 09:15 PM

Re: NL $100: Overpairs: Leaky? Spewy? HELP!
 
#1 is weird. Either raise the flop with the intention of getting the money in, with decent equity against his range, or just call the flop and fold if the turn bricks and he bets (which happened).

2 and 3 are fine, you made read-based plays and got coolered.

czGLoRy 11-28-2007 03:03 AM

Re: NL $100: Overpairs: Leaky? Spewy? HELP!
 
Ive been running into these spots non-stop. Appreciate the feedback: anyone else have anything to say?

trontron 11-28-2007 04:30 AM

Re: NL $100: Overpairs: Leaky? Spewy? HELP!
 
i would raise 14 preflop in #3, and lead flop for 19. otherwise fine.

i think #1 is fine too with your specific read.


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