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GrandMelon 10-03-2007 04:18 PM

400NL meh
 
Villain here is Vamito, a 13/10ish reg. Hes ok, nothing great and doesnt seem to get outta line too much. Im running 16/13ish and have been pretty aggro.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $78.15
BB: $100.00
UTG: $236.00
UTG+1: $402.00
Hero (MP1): $404.00
MP2: $400.00
CO: $302.45
BTN: $400.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, MP2 calls $16.00, 4 folds

Flop: ($38) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $28.00</font>, MP2 calls $28.00

Turn: ($94) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

River: ($94) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets $60.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $196.00</font>

toymach776 10-03-2007 04:25 PM

Re: meh
 
what are you trying to represent here?

TheProdigy 10-03-2007 04:33 PM

Re: meh
 
Yea doesn't make much sense..

You raise preflop, could put you on a lot and 22-88 are all parts of this range. You bet the flop and it could still be the same. You check the turn but could be looking for a c-r so your range also can still stay the same. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any hands that you c-r on the river after he checks through on the turn because you lose so much value if you actually have a set here that you would bet out most of the time.


P.S. I am going by the regular 1/2 player, and cannot go on you exactly, but generally this is how I would view someone here when I was going through your range.

Obv. this could be changed according to how you play if I played with you.

Edit: Forgot to add: It looks like this guy is making a play as well. I would assume just KQ or something like that and he didn't have any showdown value so he bet it. Personally if you this he is full of [censored] I would call here, but raising generally gets out no better hands because it looks so fishy.

chicken10der 10-03-2007 04:36 PM

Re: meh
 
i run into villain's line all the time it seems, and i'm never really sure what to do. i really can't figure much out on this board. i'd be interested in the results.

Renton 10-03-2007 04:42 PM

Re: meh
 
i'd rather just bet 2 or 3 streets or c/f the flop.

I don't like this.

CalledDownLight 10-03-2007 05:07 PM

Re: meh
 
meh, pretty obv that you're repping an overpair, no? If I checked the turn with an overpair I'd go for the river c/r most of the time instead of leading the river. However, I do think 3 barreling works better, but don't think this either really good or really bad.

FireStorm 10-03-2007 05:09 PM

Re: meh
 
So, considering that you can't win at showdown and you get called 90% of the time here, what are we trying to do? Stick win-every-pot-syndrome in the muck and simply fold the river.

CalledDownLight 10-03-2007 05:12 PM

Re: meh
 
[ QUOTE ]
So, considering that you can't win at showdown and you get called 90% of the time here, what are we trying to do? Stick win-every-pot-syndrome in the muck and simply fold the river.

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you call here with 89? 66? 99? no way he gets called here anything near 90% of the time. I'd bet its more like 50-65%.

TheProdigy 10-03-2007 05:16 PM

Re: meh
 
Why would an overpair play like this? I see nothing that screams overpair to me.

CalledDownLight 10-03-2007 05:44 PM

Re: meh
 
[ QUOTE ]
Why would an overpair play like this? I see nothing that screams overpair to me.

[/ QUOTE ]

do you never check the turn here with an overpair vs. someone on the TAG/nit line. I definitely do, sometimes with the intention of a c/c and other times with the intention of a crai. I think you're missing some value if you always lead the river with an overpair if you check this turn. c/r on the river is definitely my plan if I checked the turn with KK or AA.


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