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Koost 09-28-2007 01:30 PM

5/10 Live, Thin river call. How often am I good?
 
5/10 NL
Villain's to my immediate right, has been splashing, and has cb about 80% of flops he's been raising (dry boards or not)and is one of the bigger calling stations at the table.

Stacks are $1200 effective. I'm generally seen as solid, and have been to showdown once tabling bottom set.

My turn play is bad, but as played please evaluate the river scenario.

Limps to villain in hijack who raises to $30 (general raises have been $50+). I call on the button with AhJh.

Blinds fold, both limpers call. 4 to the flop ($135)

Flop:
9h 6h 3s
Checks to raiser, who bets half pot ($70). I raise to $275 to take the pot down, or see a free turn card if in fact villain does have a piece or overpair (unlikely due to the small PF raise?). Blinds fold, villain calls, goes to turn.

Turn:
4c

Villain checks and I check bricked turn (mostly due to fear of calling station calling shove with any reasonable piece). Shove would prob be +EV here, but as played please evaluate river.

River:
Js

Villain leads for $450? How often are we good here? How much more would you be inclined to fold if an ace hits the river. My line looks like a missed draw no? Villain is NOT good enough to consider checking to induce a bluff. How often do you think villain bets A9s here or TT, QQ, KK? Are QQ, KK out of his range here?

Any advice would be appreciated.

redtrain 09-28-2007 01:37 PM

Re: 5/10 Live, Thin river call. How often am I good?
 
easy call!

whorasaurus 09-28-2007 02:07 PM

Re: 5/10 Live, Thin river call. How often am I good?
 
you're good enough to call 100%

Colombo 09-28-2007 02:09 PM

Re: 5/10 Live, Thin river call. How often am I good?
 
I kinda want to shove but a call is fine. Folding isn't.

Koost 09-28-2007 03:25 PM

Re: 5/10 Live, Thin river call. How often am I good?
 
I'm curious as to why you'd consider shoving the river? I don't see any worse hands calling here.

I called and villain showed up with 3d4d here.... yep....

alavet 09-28-2007 03:57 PM

Re: 5/10 Live, Thin river call. How often am I good?
 
yo ucertanly dont want go all in
even you lost, its clear call

McStinky 09-29-2007 05:05 PM

Re: 5/10 Live, Thin river call. How often am I good?
 
I guess you should call here given the info you have. However, in live games people give away so much that if you have been paying attention you should have a really good idea of where you are at. There could have been clues from a while ago that would turn this call into a fold, just something to think about.

w33ktight 09-30-2007 10:42 AM

Re: 5/10 Live, Thin river call. How often am I good?
 
Your turn play isn't bad at all, it's standard. If THIS villain called on the flop I really doubt hes folding on the turn when the board hardly changed. (his A9 or w/e is still TOP PAIR)

and on the river you have to call. Welcome to live poker, described villain will show up with so much weird [censored] here, He probably thinks you have nothing, most likely a draw so now some fishy villains will bet any pair here because they don't think about what you will call with, they think any pair is good so they bet.

Ok I saw the results. If the villain can possibly call the flop with 34, then you MUST call this river. No question.
I'll explain this better. Ok, he can call your flop raise with bottom pair. Now consider his range on the river knowing hes a live donk and probably thinks any pair is good... Seriously call

Astyanax 09-30-2007 10:57 AM

Re: 5/10 Live, Thin river call. How often am I good?
 
well played by all, poker was the winner!

Ineedaride2 09-30-2007 11:00 AM

Re: 5/10 Live, Thin river call. How often am I good?
 
I'm not advocating shoving or anything, but...

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I'm curious as to why you'd consider shoving the river? I don't see any worse hands calling here.

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What happened to....

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Villain checks and I check bricked turn (mostly due to fear of calling station calling shove with any reasonable piece).

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