what kind of odds do i need here?
 

Full Tilt Poker Game #3291095805: FTOPS Event #12 (23186107), Table 51 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:37:05 ET - 2007/08/18
Seat 1: tengol4life (5,592)
Seat 2: John_McClane17 (6,720)
Seat 3: fkscreennames (4,895)
Seat 4: wuddacooler (4,805)
Seat 5: sorryguy (4,720)
Seat 6: holla-athca-boy (5,350)
Seat 7: Sapster (4,895)
Seat 8: AJKHoosier1 (3,933)
Seat 9: da_professional (4,090)
holla-athca-boy posts the small blind of 15
Sapster posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to fkscreennames [7h 5h]
AJKHoosier1 raises to 90
da_professional folds
tengol4life calls 90
John_McClane17 folds
fkscreennames has 15 seconds left to act
fkscreennames raises to 360
wuddacooler has 15 seconds left to act
wuddacooler raises to 960
sorryguy folds
holla-athca-boy folds
Sapster folds
AJKHoosier1 folds
tengol4life folds
fkscreennames:???? the reason i repopped was akjhoosier was raising a lot even from ep and the guy who called has flat-called a decent amount of time so far also my sn is unknown and i only played 1 hand so far and showed aq so i figured i have a lot of deception here and steal equity what do u guys think of this?

ok to my main question after i get 4 bet by a good player i put him on aa,kk what kind of odds do i need to call here i feel im going to stack him like everytime i flop the best hand except when i get sucked out on and maybe k75 k55 k77 boards but thats it. i think i need like 8 to 1 implied here right?

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Closer to 20-1 I think.

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Closer to 20-1 I think.

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can u explain the math to me please

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ahh so that explains the convo on abs.

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You flop trips about 1 in 75 times, you flop two pair about 1 in 50. Total ~= 1 in 30, you'll flop two pair/trips.

You'll flop a flush draw OR 8 out straight draw about 15% of the time (this includes paired flops)

You'll flop a four flush AND a 3 out or 6 out straight draw about 2.6% of the time.

So basically, on ~5% of flops, you'll be happy to get it in. (2.6 + 3.33 ~= 5)

These numbers are taken from Mike Petriv's "Hold'em's Odd(s) Book". And, no, I'm not a book salesman.

Also, I just call preflop. Unless you are trying to get people to loosen up to your reraises or they will call reraises wide then c/f on lots of flop, I think you're better off trying to hit a big flop and win a big pot.

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Re-raise preflop with 75s is a sure way to donk off some chips. Just call and hope you get a monster flop. Stacks are deep so go for doubling up by stacking the enemy instead of trying to steal a nearly empty flop. Why go for increasing the stack with 5% when one can go for increasing it with 100% ?