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yourface 11-17-2007 01:35 AM

video #2
 
I think this one went a lot better regarding commentary.
tell me what you think. once again I am more interested in what you think of my thought processess (am I overlooking anything? etc) than anything else

big thx to deathdonkey and the dudes at deucescracked for hosting the vid
http://www.deucescracked.com/public_...yourface_2.avi

jr4284 11-17-2007 01:41 AM

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Well I just watched 007 in Casino Royale, so as long as your poker commentary is better than that, A+ in my book.

l0gician 11-17-2007 01:44 AM

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Watched it, liked it. Sadly I have nothing to teach.

mattnxtc 11-17-2007 02:05 AM

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Good video...you seemed more comfortable with this one. Keep em coming.

Municipal Hare 11-17-2007 06:14 AM

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I had audio distortion and delay issues with this video. Sound that gets warped during compression is one of the most abrasive sounds to the ear, so you might want to troubleshoot that.

Starting at 3:00, A2o isolate and unimproved betdown: whoa. Alien territory to me. Worthy of a thread.
Did you plan to call 44 down vs. a turn checkraise at 13:25? Good bet regardless.
Curious about the snap semibluff lead with 82s 4-way against this crew. Guess the board was dry enough to get it HU and have a profitable turn bluff.
88 at 14:30: Have you given more thought to the ideal line here? Checkcall, donk turn?
You say top set if checkraised on KT67A three-flush is an clear 3-bet against the weirdo preflop capper who doesn't know how to valuebet rivers. Are QJ and slowplayed flushes that far off the mark? Granted we have the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] covered.
Not a fan of bet-calling the dumb passive's float at 28:50 with two weak overs.
You peel K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on a 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3-way flop not closing the action. I wouldn't often think to make this peel, but I like your reasoning, and I guess you only need the three king outs and the backdoor for it to show profit.
All around great play with TT rivered one-card flush. Way to follow through on your reads.
At 39:50 with A4o on K55 flop you were mumbling about a hypothetical call somewhere...
With the 54o at 35:15, I'd fold preflop once the dumb passive pops his option.

Thanks for this!

inferno 11-17-2007 08:06 AM

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havent even have time to watch your first one, slow it down yo

thepizzlefosho 11-17-2007 10:12 AM

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you play the pokers good. I really don't have any critiques. I thought the ATo hand is better as a limp against those players because you'll get more action on Ahigh flops, but I probably raise it a lot myself.

Also I thought the 3-bet with the 55 was a little loose considering you thought that player wouldn't give you a lot of credit and would play back at you a lot.

also the iso raise with the 44 was probably a little light.

but none of those things are really mistakes, just plays that can go either way. for the most part I thought you play postflop pretty much perfectly, although like you said in the video the rivered flush with the 83 hand is should probably be a donk most of the time since loose passives always fear the flush and have trouble value betting.

nice video. looking forward to number 3

istewart 11-17-2007 10:49 AM

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In the 55 hand, were you going to call down or FSD anywhere?

istewart 11-17-2007 10:55 AM

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I loled when the guy in the middle folded to the cap and you like orgasmed on the mic.

yourface 11-17-2007 01:33 PM

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I had audio distortion and delay issues with this video. Sound that gets warped during compression is one of the most abrasive sounds to the ear, so you might want to troubleshoot that.

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I noticed a bit of a delay but no distortion. maybe something happened when I uploaded it to DC. I really have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to AV stuff but I will download a copy off DC and see what is up

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Starting at 3:00, A2o isolate and unimproved betdown: whoa. Alien territory to me. Worthy of a thread.

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his ATSB is around 60% so I definately want to defend here. I am around even money preflop and with dead money from the BB + initiative + postflop edge I can definately play on. I had some history with this dude and I really expected him to raise me on the flop or turn with a pair or strong draw, so by the river I narrowed his hand range down to Ax or Kx. vs that range the river is a VB.

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Did you plan to call 44 down vs. a turn checkraise at 13:25? Good bet regardless.

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yea I would have. pretty sure he would c/r me on the flop with a good pair or strong draw so when he c/r that turn I'd be very suspicious that he just picked up a flush draw

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Curious about the snap semibluff lead with 82s 4-way against this crew. Guess the board was dry enough to get it HU and have a profitable turn bluff.

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yes, if I can narrow it to 1 player I can semibluff the turn, and if a bunch of people come along it is +EV for me. I think checking is good too, mix it up

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88 at 14:30: Have you given more thought to the ideal line here? Checkcall, donk turn?

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not really. I think that would be the best play though in this spot, curious what others think

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You say top set if checkraised on KT67A three-flush is an clear 3-bet against the weirdo preflop capper who doesn't know how to valuebet rivers. Are QJ and slowplayed flushes that far off the mark? Granted we have the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] covered.

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yea really should have explained that. I think that hands that those hands need to be discounted heavily based on how the hand was played out (capping pre with JQo, not c/r the turn with a flush). though there is only one Ax hand left in the deck for him to have AJ AQ with. maybe not as definite as I first thought, I will have to think about it more

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Not a fan of bet-calling the dumb passive's float at 28:50 with two weak overs.

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I think you are right. he can have any straight or set here, and him being passive postflop weights his hand range towards those type of hands. ie he might not raise the flop with something like Q7 or A6

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You peel K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on a 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3-way flop not closing the action. I wouldn't often think to make this peel, but I like your reasoning, and I guess you only need the three king outs and the backdoor for it to show profit.

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I expect my 9s to often be good vs missblade there. I think a T would likely get c/r on the flop

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At 39:50 with A4o on K55 flop you were mumbling about a hypothetical call somewhere...

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I'd expect to have the best hand there a lot, very bluff friendly board

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With the 54o at 35:15, I'd fold preflop once the dumb passive pops his option.

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meh he is very dumb and so is the other dude. getting 5:1 on 1SB I think I can turn a profit there


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