$12turbo: TPWK call on river?
 

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t20/t40
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1320
UTG+1: t1295
MP1: t1695
MP2: t1455
CO: t1320
Button: t3525
hero: t1460
BB: t1430

Pre-flop: (8 players) hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
5 folds, Button calls t40 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t60)</font>, hero calls t20 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t100)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t120, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets t100</font>, BB calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t220)</font>, Button calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t320)</font>.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t420, 3 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets t120</font>, Button calls t120 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t540)</font>, hero calls t120 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t660)</font>.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t780, 3 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets t440</font>, Button folds, hero calls t440 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1220)</font>.

Results:
Final pot: t1660

Does it make a difference if you bet the flop or check/call it? Are these marginal spots where it doesn't matter if you fold or call? Is calling river standard or fold to his semi big bet?

Re: $12turbo: TPWK call on river?
 

i don't like betting that flop so heavy, i might bet like t80, then try and make a smallish (1/2-2/3 pot) bet on the turn, then prob check/call river. this strat has worked for me recently when i flop top pair with only a good kicker, because it allows me to keep the pot under control.

Re: $12turbo: TPWK call on river?
 

What is usually better leading the flop or check/calling? Against a unknown are you almost always going to call if the last person to act is betting the flop? Fold the river if they bet pot or half the pot right?

Re: $12turbo: TPWK call on river?
 

I like leading but I don't put any more chips uninproved.

The pb with c/c is that you increase their bluff frequency but your hand is not good enough to call more than one bet.

As played, leeding chips on TPWK / no draw against 2 opponents is one of the worst thing you can do. Fold the turn and turbofold the river.

Re: $12turbo: TPWK call on river?
 

Turn call is fine IMO, but i'd probably have to fold the river unless I had a good read.

Re: $12turbo: TPWK call on river?
 

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Turn call is fine IMO, but i'd probably have to fold the river unless I had a good read.

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Re: $12turbo: TPWK call on river?
 

Normally I would check the flop and see what developed.

I fold this turn even with the huge pot odds after getting called in two places on the flop, and then seeing the turn get bet/called.

The river is an easy fold with him betting into two opponents that have put chips in the pot on the flop and turn.

Re: $12turbo: TPWK call on river?
 

fold turn fold river. you're closing action on turn...tpwk is no good to the river since you always fold to a 1/2 pot or 3/4 pot bet on the river without some read that villain is a complete idiot. leading is ok especially on this relatively dry board as long it isnt more than 3 handed.

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Turn call is fine IMO, but i'd probably have to fold the river unless I had a good read.

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