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Rodolphe 10-29-2007 02:57 PM

16$ : JJ in midblind in position
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP (t4140)
Hero (t3215)
SB (t1230)
BB (t4030)
UTG (t885)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t400.

Flop: (t1300) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t3430</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t2500

vers 10-29-2007 03:40 PM

Re: 16$ : JJ in midblind in position
 
I'd bet 800 on flop and fold to shove, 600 is kinda a weak cbet.

Little John 10-29-2007 04:14 PM

Re: 16$ : JJ in midblind in position
 
i bet a tad more on the c-bet as well, maybe 750. i hate it, but i am probably calling the push. board is a bit drawy and it is a button vs bb battle, so i can see bb pushing with a lot of stuff you are ahead of.

JacJacAtk 10-29-2007 04:29 PM

Re: 16$ : JJ in midblind in position
 
Pre-flop shove is unexploitable, and about 0.9% +EV minimum, which ought to be enough to compensate for the relatively high-variance it could lead to.

AMT 10-29-2007 06:07 PM

Re: 16$ : JJ in midblind in position
 
cbet 750 and i call the shove if hes at all aggressive, this board is drawy as hell and this line is taken with soooo many hands. yeah, he could definitely have you beat, but his range as played is super wide. especially with the size of your cbet, this opens his range as played that much more.

folding is reasonable vs some players

JOHANSON YO 10-29-2007 06:44 PM

Re: 16$ : JJ in midblind in position
 
raising to 3x is better than pushing here?

Little John 10-29-2007 06:47 PM

Re: 16$ : JJ in midblind in position
 
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raising to 3x is better than pushing here?

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pushing is pretty bad in this spot. 2.5x or 3x and hope sb or bb shoves.


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