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sheetsworld 11-28-2007 03:00 AM

Re: FTP $750K in the money
 
such carmine abbatiellos

HatesLosing 11-28-2007 04:35 PM

Re: FTP $750K in the money
 
You were WAAAAAY off in your estimate of your fold equity, imo, so I don't like it. Only a poker snob would call your play "horrible" though. Even Harrington would at least credit you with "1 point" (Vol. III) for a play like this, but no credit for limping in--that really would be horrible.

Steve Williams 11-29-2007 09:33 AM

Re: FTP $750K in the money
 
Even unknown players who may not be sick @ maths know because of the Harrington Vol 2 "Multiple Inflection Points" chapter that you are likely to be pushing really wide here. If they don't know the optimal range they still may just make a weird call anyway. One thing you have going for you here is that when less experienced players get close to huge money they go weak/tight sometimes.

I've even let a stack like this go to the BB if my next hand is really bad when the table is playing tight. If I get HU all in with an average or better hand from the BB, it seems way better than pushing into 3 people with not much fold equity. I just hate getting this stack in with bad values UTG or UTG + 1.

ValarMorghulis 11-29-2007 11:06 AM

Re: FTP $750K in the money
 
I don't understand how shoving any two in next position is better. Say this hand was posted with hero as UTG and had the same hand, should we then push? Surely our pushing range should be even tigher next hand.

And does the maths take into account that even though pushing might be slightly -EV, letting the blinds pass through without pushing might be more -EV. (A certain % of the time we may have no +EV situations over the next few hands and then we have a massively reduced stack and even less FE next time we get first in vig.)

And are we seriously getting called by T9s,QTo by anyone except the BB. Surely we have decent FE here. (Though I guess the BB calling range is much wider than the figures given in sheets post.)


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