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remz289 04-26-2007 12:08 PM

Flopping a set: slow playing or not?
 
I don't know when to play slow or agressive with a set on the flop. Any comments?

******* Hand 1 ********

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.10/$0.2
8 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (8 players) HERO is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls <font color="aaaaaa">(1.5:1)</font>, 3 folds, CO calls <font color="aaaaaa">(2.5:1)</font>, Button folds, SB calls <font color="aaaaaa">(3.5:0.5)</font>, HERO checks.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4SB, 4 players)
SB checks, HERO checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, SB calls <font color="aaaaaa">(5:1)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises</font>, UTG folds, CO calls <font color="aaaaaa">(8:1)</font>, SB calls <font color="aaaaaa">(9:1)</font>.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, HERO checks, CO checks.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">HERO bets</font>, CO calls <font color="aaaaaa">(6:1)</font>, SB calls <font color="aaaaaa">(7:1)</font>.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB


******* Hand 2 ********

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.10/$0.2
7 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (7 players) HERO is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">HERO raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls <font color="aaaaaa">(3.5:2)</font>, CO calls <font color="aaaaaa">(5.5:2)</font>, Button folds, SB calls <font color="aaaaaa">(7.5:1.5)</font>, BB folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, HERO calls <font color="aaaaaa">(10:1)</font>, MP1 calls <font color="aaaaaa">(11:1)</font>, CO folds.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, HERO calls <font color="aaaaaa">(7:1)</font>, MP1 calls <font color="aaaaaa">(8:1)</font>.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9BB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">HERO bets</font>, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to HERO.

Results:
Final pot: 9BB


******* Hand 3 ********

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.10/$0.2
8 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (8 players) HERO is MP2 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls <font color="aaaaaa">(1.5:1)</font>, UTG+1, folds, MP1 (poster) checks, HERO calls <font color="aaaaaa">(2.5:1)</font>, 2 folds, SB calls <font color="aaaaaa">(3.5:0.5)</font>, BB (poster) checks.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5SB, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets</font>, HERO calls <font color="aaaaaa">(6:1)</font>, 3 folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 2 players)
MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">HERO bets</font>, MP1 calls <font color="aaaaaa">(4.5:1)</font>.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players)
MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">HERO bets</font>, MP1 calls <font color="aaaaaa">(6.5:1)</font>.

Results:
Final pot: 7.5BB

kerowo 04-26-2007 12:10 PM

Re: Flopping a set: slow playing or not?
 
No, don't slow play. No, don't post 3 hands at once. Read the FAQ and respond to other peoples hands. Welcome to the forum.

fretelöo 04-26-2007 12:12 PM

Re: Flopping a set: slow playing or not?
 
Pls read the faq and only post one hand at a time.

Then, in the first hand you have trips, not a set. Slowplaying trips is just about always bad, esp. at your level. Checking that turn is atrocious. Someone could just have picked up a Flushdraw and you let him see the next card for free. Brilliant.

Second hand: Congrats at making the least possible amount of money for your hand. Your opponents sure love you.

Third hand: Same. The raise button is there for a reason.

Jago 04-26-2007 12:39 PM

Re: Flopping a set: slow playing or not?
 
Hand 1: Bet the flop, bet the turn.

Hand 2: raise the flop, as played raise the turn.

Hand 3: Just raise the flop

Finally,
[ QUOTE ]
No, don't slow play. No, don't post 3 hands at once. Read the FAQ and respond to other peoples hands. Welcome to the forum.

[/ QUOTE ]

chimpanzepoopdic 04-26-2007 12:52 PM

Re: Flopping a set: slow playing or not?
 
Hand 1
The turn check was insane. Trips arent nearly as strong as sets. Keep the pressure on.

Hand 2 and 3
Once you get sucked out on enough by allowing your opponents to draw to cheap runner runners and only winning smallpots you will learn to make them pay to stay in.

bbbushu 04-26-2007 01:04 PM

Re: Flopping a set: slow playing or not?
 
[ QUOTE ]
No, don't slow play. No, don't post 3 hands at once. Read the FAQ and respond to other peoples hands. Welcome to the forum.

[/ QUOTE ]
with this kind of in-depth analysis, i can't imagine OP isn't stoked.

Chino987 04-26-2007 01:09 PM

Re: Flopping a set: slow playing or not?
 
why are you slow playing? give us your reasons first.

then we'll let you know if we disagree.

whoshotfirst 04-26-2007 01:13 PM

Re: Flopping a set: slow playing or not?
 
In hand 1 you can't really hope for CO to bet the turn after your flop c/r.

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S 04-26-2007 01:16 PM

Re: Flopping a set: slow playing or not?
 
hand 1 - hahahahahhahahahaha wtf was any of that... im not going to even comment im convinced this hand is a joke.

hand 2 - you need to raise the flop to charge straight draws. if you arent raising the flop then raise the turn.

hand 3 - is probably fine on this dry board.

at this level slowplaying is USUALLY incorrect, but sometimes its fine. until you are skilled enough to understand against which players and on which boards to do it, just play the game straight up and bet your trips and sets.

kerowo 04-26-2007 01:59 PM

Re: Flopping a set: slow playing or not?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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No, don't slow play. No, don't post 3 hands at once. Read the FAQ and respond to other peoples hands. Welcome to the forum.

[/ QUOTE ]
with this kind of in-depth analysis, i can't imagine OP isn't stoked.

[/ QUOTE ]

Meh. I said welcome.


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