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Double Eagle 10-15-2007 03:13 PM

Help me to not suck deep
 
This hand came up at the end of my session this morning vs Frink. He's been playing his normal wide open style and views me as a bad nit. I got my chips by stacking him 20 minutes earlier with JJ vs TT aipf. I also just stacked him on another table when I beat his flopped straight with a set that made a boat after the chips went in.

Edited to add: For those that don't know him, Villain is super aggro/borderline spewy and very good at reading hands.

Two questions here, should this be a snap call on the river and what should my line on the turn be?

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $1,056
BB: $96
UTG: $406
CO: $1,153.40
BTN: $400

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $16</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $64</font>, BB folds, CO calls $48

Flop: ($132) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $108</font>, CO calls $108

Turn: ($348) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $240</font>, CO calls $240

River: ($828) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $741.40 and is All-In</font>, Hero ?????

orange 10-15-2007 03:15 PM

Re: Help me to not suck deep
 
I would probably check the turn against said villan.

$upermad4it 10-15-2007 03:15 PM

Re: Help me to not suck deep
 
this is definately not a call on the river. I prefer check calling turn, and re-evaluate river. If you had no pair, I would like your turn bet, but you have showdown value so why turn it into a bluff.As played you cannot call the river

Double Eagle 10-15-2007 03:19 PM

Re: Help me to not suck deep
 
FWIW I felt like if I checked twice I was going to see two barrels 100% of the time.

lapoker17 10-15-2007 03:22 PM

Re: Help me to not suck deep
 
make it like 80 pre.

Btch_Im_Cuter 10-15-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Help me to not suck deep
 
[ QUOTE ]
FWIW I felt like if I checked twice I was going to see two barrels 100% of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]

Just because you feel it...doesn't mean it's true.

Fonkey123 10-15-2007 11:14 PM

Re: Help me to not suck deep
 
I would call here. Frink is capable, and does, float all kinds of [censored] as well as value betting light.

Sure you're going to get owned by A/x here occasionally, but if you always fold in this spot I think he's going to eat you alive.

Rampage_Jackson 10-15-2007 11:19 PM

Re: Help me to not suck deep
 
It doesn't look like a bluff to me because I don't think he's going to assume you are folding an ace all the time.

0evg0 10-15-2007 11:31 PM

Re: Help me to not suck deep
 
fold

i'd pretty much guarantee he has AX 1 pair here

stacks are such that he'd be shoving any draw on the turn, as well as anything that beats AK

(you are calling a turn shove with AQ/AK, right?)


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