16s: Bad Fold?
 

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UTG (t2035)
Hero (t3870)
SB (t1230)
BB (t6365)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls t800.

Flop: (t2450) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t810 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1640

I think I screwed this one all the way up.

Re: 16s: Bad Fold?
 

wow...

Pf 3bet is good, you can still fold if BB comes over the top.

There is no way in hell you can fold that flop though when UTG flatcalls pf...

Re: 16s: Bad Fold?
 

I put UTG on AQ+, 99+. I wanted to scare him with the whole 3x reraise equals = KK or AA thing. It didnt work and I figured that range was good when he bet out on that low flop.

What does he have that I beat that also does not fold preflop and bets out on a low flop?

Re: 16s: Bad Fold?
 

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What does he have that I beat that also does not fold preflop and bets out on a low flop?

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Why do you think he is that tight ? Do you really think he folds AJ or KQ for that matter there ? It's 16, he's a donk. He could have KTs or just about anything else.

And even if he has AQ+, 99+ you are still about 30% to win. You are getting 4:1, or 20% to call for a huge pot. This is a must-call.

Re: 16s: Bad Fold?
 

Getting 4:1 postflop makes this a call, even if you're pretty sure you're behind. Even if he has a pair your AK still has a fighting chance. He could also have AQ, AJ, KQ. With the BB out of the hand, I think this is an easy call.

Re: 16s: Bad Fold?
 

I just push preflop. As played, I think you have to call. I'm not exactly sure what hands he would play in this way (reads?), but I suspect either you are behind or he has a draw.

Re: 16s: Bad Fold?
 

Yeah, I actually also like the push pf best. It would really suck to have to fold if BB comes over the top and UTG folds.

Re: 16s: Bad Fold?
 

I have to say I like 1200, or even 1100 better than a push here.

Flop is obv a call.

Re: 16s: Bad Fold?
 

Yeah, I don't like pushing here for 20 BB. 1200 is fine IMO, just get it in on each flop and fold to a BB raise.

Edit: No, I think pushing is better, such a spew otherwise.

Re: 16s: Bad Fold?
 

zomg shove pf!!! and u can never fold this flop like whoaaaaa.