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neuroman 05-05-2007 07:05 PM

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all the wording is very very retarded and biased

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Yeah these polls are pretty awful. I'm not religious at all but I'm sure that amongst those who are, there's a difference between "agnostic" and "my faith never wavers."

wacki 05-05-2007 07:05 PM

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I have a tough time answering these because I want to say "both" on some.

Man was created.....via evolution...but I believe there was supernatural that got the initial ball rolling.

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Since a supernatural got the ball rolling but man was created by evolution, what did you pick when it came to the big bang/genesis?

wacki 05-05-2007 07:06 PM

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all the wording is very very retarded and biased

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Yeah these polls are pretty awful. I'm not religious at all but I'm sure that amongst those who are, there's a difference between "agnostic" and "my faith never wavers."

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How should I have phrased that question?

guids 05-05-2007 07:08 PM

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wacki, is there a reason why you biased the poll with the wording in regards to teh Co2 changing the climate question?

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Yes, some people aren't well read enough to know that pretty much every scientific organization on the planet endorses the IPCC. I wanted to separate the ignorant from the skeptics and deniers.

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HAHAH...the similarity between the church telling everyone the world is flat, and the politicians feeding you the global warming hysteria is too much. If you cant see how that poll wording is biased, you are a moron. And it has nothing to do with whether people believe there is a scientific consensus or not.

wacki 05-05-2007 07:09 PM

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I have a tough time answering these because I want to say "both" on some.

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I fail to see the difference between universe created by "god" and one created by "big bang".

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hrm........ I should have phrased it:

"the universe was created:

A) 6,000 years ago
B) at the big bang"

guids 05-05-2007 07:11 PM

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You need to reword ALL these questions.

Blarg 05-05-2007 07:12 PM

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whats the difference between somewhat of an atheist and strong atheist?

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'Militant/strong' atheists generally go "There is no god and anyone that believes in god is stupid". 'Reasonable/somewhat' atheists tend to admit they might be wrong but are still atheists. I should have made that clearer.

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This sounds more like an analysis of attitude than a delineation of fact.

Your "reasonable/somewhat atheists" just sound mellow and potentially verging over into agnostics. Your "militant/strong atheists" just sound like dicks.

Also, I think you need to parse finer that a person can believe stupid things without being stupid. There probably are very few people ever born who didn't believe some surprisingly stupid things. That isn't necessarily enough to make them stupid.

guids 05-05-2007 07:15 PM

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evolution vs intelligent design is another dumb one. Why even post these leading questions?

esad 05-05-2007 07:17 PM

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I fail to see the difference between universe created by "god" and one created by "big bang".

hrm........ I should have phrased it:

"the universe was created:

A) 6,000 years ago
B) at the big bang"


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You know Wacki you really seem to be clueless on this sort of stuff. Someone could believe in God and still believe in the big bang. The way you write these questions is similar to the question "Do you still beat your wife?"

mbillie1 05-05-2007 07:18 PM

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evolution vs intelligent design is another dumb one. Why even post these leading questions?

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I think he's trying to find out if OOT is more or less scientifically inclined than your average American, per the OP. Intelligent design is not a scientific theory/idea/etc, it's just a moral/political one. So accepting ID but rejecting evolution is anti-scientific, or unscientific at the very least. I think OP just wants to see how OOT's demographics compare to the USA's at large.


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