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netstorm 11-19-2007 04:12 PM

$100nl: I squeeze with KK, flop brings an ace
 
Villain is 23/10/2 over ~130 hands. We haven't had a lot of history postflop. I had been fairly active on this table, showing a lot of PF aggression.

How is my line? If I cbet here he will fold basically anything I beat, but by checking to him he might take a stab at the pot. Is this fine? Or do I c/f or b/f here?

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $208.31
BTN: $99.50
Hero (SB): $112.77
BB: $135.29
UTG: $143.10
MP: $188.72

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, <font color="red">CO raises to $6</font>, BTN calls $6, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, 4 folds, BTN calls $18

Flop: ($57) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $45</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $88.77 and is All-In</font>

knicknut 11-19-2007 04:15 PM

Re: $100nl: I squeeze with KK, flop brings an ace
 
I'm not sure there's much a 23/10 will call a RR PF with, the bet that strongly when an A flops, then will call your push with an inferior hand. He has to think you have an A or a pair (assuming you won't RR to 24BB with KQ or worse), so unless he's got crap and is trying to push you off KK-TT, I'm not sure what you beat here.

Or I could be thinking way to rationally about this.

netstorm 11-19-2007 04:20 PM

Re: $100nl: I squeeze with KK, flop brings an ace
 
So, are you putting him on exactly AQ or AK ?

h_ven 11-19-2007 04:20 PM

Re: $100nl: I squeeze with KK, flop brings an ace
 
I like to b/f this flop, but as played I fold like a nit.

knicknut 11-19-2007 04:30 PM

Re: $100nl: I squeeze with KK, flop brings an ace
 
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So, are you putting him on exactly AQ or AK ?

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Your pot odds assuming you get all in are 132.5:75.5, you need to win &gt; 36% of the time.

I think you find AA, AK, or AQ over QQ, JJ, or TT more than 64% of the time here, as long as he doesn't think you're 3-betting light and trying to push QQ-TT for value.

Unfortunately b/f here is not an option with the pot odds, so I say you either c/f to a strong bet, or value bet and call if necessary. At least then he puts some money in with QQ, JJ, etc.

DanJ. 11-19-2007 04:42 PM

Re: $100nl: I squeeze with KK, flop brings an ace
 
I think check/shove is fine, I think villain can have 66 - TT here.


Pete H 11-20-2007 03:40 AM

Re: $100nl: I squeeze with KK, flop brings an ace
 
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I think check/shove is fine, I think villain can have 66 - TT here.

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What does the shove accomplish? He'll call with an ace and fold everything we beat.

Alobar 11-20-2007 04:17 AM

Re: $100nl: I squeeze with KK, flop brings an ace
 
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So, are you putting him on exactly AQ or AK ?

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I think you find AA, AK, or AQ over QQ, JJ, or TT more than 64% of the time here, as long as he doesn't think you're 3-betting light and trying to push QQ-TT for value.

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AA 3 combos
AK 6 combos
AQ 12 combos
QQ-TT 18 combos

39 total combos, 21 of which have us beat, which is 53%. the question is, how often is he betting QQ-TT when we check to him

elstunar 11-20-2007 04:19 AM

Re: $100nl: I squeeze with KK, flop brings an ace
 
he only has like $30 after he bets when checked to on the flop, more than likely if he bets he's not folding for $30 more...and if he does, oh well, we got like 2/3 of his stack

Pete H 11-20-2007 04:25 AM

Re: $100nl: I squeeze with KK, flop brings an ace
 
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he only has like $30 after he bets when checked to on the flop, more than likely if he bets he's not folding for $30 more...and if he does, oh well, we got like 2/3 of his stack

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Oops, missed villains stacksize. I don't mind it with that little left.


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