delete is our friend
 

i keep getting notifications and happily see the mods have taken action. but i'm seeing ridiculous threads locked and don't understand. let's just delete them, or tell me why i'm wrong.

Re: delete is our friend
 

It is my understanding that once a thread is deleted it is gone forever? (Not recoverable). Is this true? If so, could we have a 'mod trash can forum' to move threads to? This would allow documentation on when/why posters have violated the rules and also allow for posts to be moved back if decided they are ok while removing those posts from the general forums in the interim.

Mat - do you have examples of posts that should be deleted and posts that should just be locked? I often lock posts in the Zoo that are not posted in the 'official posts' such as Epassporte or transfer requests. I am thinking you are meaning posts that are totally inappropriate for 2+2 or violate the sites t&c. Just asking as this helps us to better understand your expectations.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
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could we have a 'mod trash can forum' to move threads to?

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This is not a bad idea really, I sometimes move threads to the mod forum but it would make sense to have somewhere we can move garbage to where it does not get permanently removed, should it be needed for some reason later...?

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If so, add a "older than 90 day, auto delete" function?

I don't think someone wants to manage a trash forum, do they?

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I usually lock threads that arent spam as an example to other posters.

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could we have a 'mod trash can forum' to move threads to?

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This is not a bad idea really, I sometimes move threads to the mod forum but it would make sense to have somewhere we can move garbage to where it does not get permanently removed, should it be needed for some reason later...?

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i've been begging for this for over a year

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If so, add a "older than 90 day, auto delete" function?

I don't think someone wants to manage a trash forum, do they?

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there would be no "managing" of this forum. it wouldn't be visible to users.

the point of this forum would be to allow us to keep threads around so that if we ban someone we can keep their thread existing so that an admin can look at it when they email forum-master@twoplustwo.com etc.

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LL,

By the way, it's understood that threads involving pics of scantily clad hot chicks that may or may not cross the line are moved here for further inspection, never deleted. I doubt one of those is going to break out in Home Poker but you never know.

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while this sub-idea of a forum to move horrible things to is fine, there's clearly a ton of stuff that could just be deleted that isn't. in the past we have received long lectures from the oot mods about the importance of "showing people what gets locked" and stuff. personally, as you can find in other threads, i don't believe that at all, and think it's dumb. so yeah, thumbs up to deleting more threads everywhere, but also having a dump forum for us so that we don't have to move things here for keeping for records (except those photobucket threads, which should clearly stay here).

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(except those photobucket threads, which should clearly stay here).

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(and a new thread started to clearly indicate presence of said threads)

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i keep getting notifications and happily see the mods have taken action. but i'm seeing ridiculous threads locked and don't understand. let's just delete them, or tell me why i'm wrong.

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I'm tryign to change some posting behavior in NVG. Part of that is by letting people see what kinds of threads I'm locking, so they don't make similar threads. Are you referring to any locked NVG threads?

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If we do make a Mod Trashcan forum, it'd be nice for all the mods to have control of it. That way with icky threads, we could move in, edit at our leisure, and then move back.

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If we do make a Mod Trashcan forum, it'd be nice for all the mods to have control of it. That way we with icky threads, we could move in, edit at our leisure, and then move back.

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agreed

if there's an offensive post in a thread that gets quoted 20 times but we want to rescue it for whatever reason it'd be nice to have a place where we can do that and people can't see the thread while that's happening

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these are the most common, yes. but there are plenty in the strat forums as well. it's not a big deal to me, and perhaps i'm wrong. i just think we have more than enough "examples" of stupidity and they don't seem to be a deterrent.

durron and others,

i have zero problems with a mod dump. we'll make that happen. remind me.

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these are the most common, yes. but there are plenty in the strat forums as well. it's not a big deal to me, and perhaps i'm wrong. i just think we have more than enough "examples" of stupidity and they don't seem to be a deterrent.

durron and others,

i have zero problems with a mod dump. we'll make that happen. remind me.

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there will be a pm in your box on dec 3

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I agree mod dump is a good idea and that every mod should mod it

mod mod mod

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I agree mod dump is a good idea and that every mod should mod it

mod mod mod

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oh good plan.

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I agree mod dump is a good idea and that every mod should mod it

mod mod mod

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oh good plan.

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ya it is

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heh is anyone realistically gonna sift through this mod dump? i can see it just being chock-full of absolute garbage and completely unreadable.

i'm with mat. nuke nuke nuke

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heh is anyone realistically gonna sift through this mod dump? i can see it just being chock-full of absolute garbage and completely unreadable.

i'm with mat. nuke nuke nuke

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that's not the point

the point is:

1) to have a temporary place to put things for editing out certain portions of them
2) to keep records of why, for example, respected posters are being banned

no one is actually planning to sift through it looking for rescuable threads

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heh is anyone realistically gonna sift through this mod dump? i can see it just being chock-full of absolute garbage and completely unreadable.

i'm with mat. nuke nuke nuke

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[ ] Understands purpose of Mod Dump.

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heh is anyone realistically gonna sift through this mod dump? i can see it just being chock-full of absolute garbage and completely unreadable.

i'm with mat. nuke nuke nuke



[ ] Understands purpose of Mod Dump.


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Are there any valid reasons not to have a mod dump forum?

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
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Re: delete is our friend
 

zzz

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I can see at least two valid reasons for this new forum. One, often an interesting post will contain personal data (email, phone number, etc.) or inappropriate data or links but still merits discussion. By the time you edit the information a few responses have copied the data that needs editing. Having a dump forum would allow a place to clean up the data without having many more responses to clean up.

The second reason for this forum would be to move suspendable posts without cluttering up the current mod forum. Say a poster has been banned for a racist post. The user complains to Mat or Ryan. The user notes only say 'banned 3 days for a racist post'. What was in the post? It comes down to the mod word against the posters word. Who do we believe? The mod is looking over thousands of posts and users. The user 'should know' what he has posted. We would like to believe the mod but........ It would be great to have the post saved somewhere to fall back on for reference.

That being said there should be no harm in having this new forum. Those who want the new forum can utilize it. Those who don't want it will never have to venture into that new forum. JMHO

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
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This would allow documentation on when/why posters have violated the rules

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This could easily be incorporated into this suggested feature.

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There won't be a need for a mod dump in vB because most everything will be soft deletions, meaning that posts vanish for everyone except those of us with the ability to see deletion notices and can be restored.

I still think the mod forum works fine for this otherwise.

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There won't be a need for a mod dump in vB because most everything will be soft deletions, meaning that posts vanish for everyone except those of us with the ability to see deletion notices and can be restored.

I still think the mod forum works fine as a dump in the meantime.

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hi ryan,

please address this reason for having a mod dump.

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the point is:

1) to have a temporary place to put things for editing out certain portions of them


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thanks!