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Seriously, I actually took what Chuckles said in the last game to heart, it's dumb and doesn't prove a purpose

He just said it with love in his heart, I took that love, and cherished his words

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when i said it was dumb, you didnt care though?

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There are two gimmicks in this game that I've noticed. To come out firing about them seems silly I believe. It's not as though I'm doing anything in character, with the exception of that one joke reply to clown's joke of a first post.

lynch Nez

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im not sure how hes determining clowns post was a joke

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firing at gimmicks is just a cop-out d1 vote, like voting for a brand-new-player, or voting for me or bobo or a few others d1

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i'm confused why we have only 3/4ths seers this game..

this game: 5 wolves, 14 villagers, 2 3/4 seers
as8: 5 wolves, 16 villagers, 2 full seers starting n1
as7: 5 wolves, 16 villagers, 2 full seers
as6: 5 wolves, 16 villagers, 2 seers (1 starting n1, other n0)
as5: 5 wolves, 18 villagers, 2 seers
as4: 5 wolves, 18 villagers, 2 seers
as3: 5 wolves, 14 villagers, 2 seers


as u see, those other as games had MORE villagers (except 3), same wolves and better seers

[/ QUOTE ]ASXIV used a full seer and a half seer with 21 players. ASXV had 21 and used two three quarter seers, whcih works out to the same number of peeks with.

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i'm confused why we have only 3/4ths seers this game..

this game: 5 wolves, 14 villagers, 2 3/4 seers
as8: 5 wolves, 16 villagers, 2 full seers starting n1
as7: 5 wolves, 16 villagers, 2 full seers
as6: 5 wolves, 16 villagers, 2 seers (1 starting n1, other n0)
as5: 5 wolves, 18 villagers, 2 seers
as4: 5 wolves, 18 villagers, 2 seers
as3: 5 wolves, 14 villagers, 2 seers


as u see, those other as games had MORE villagers (except 3), same wolves and better seers

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wtf is a 3/4 seer?

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There are two gimmicks in this game that I've noticed. To come out firing about them seems silly I believe. It's not as though I'm doing anything in character, with the exception of that one joke reply to clown's joke of a first post.

lynch Nez

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im not sure how hes determining clowns post was a joke

[/ QUOTE ]I don't mean joke "ha ha", I mean joke "what a crazy thing to rant about."

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Seriously, I actually took what Chuckles said in the last game to heart, it's dumb and doesn't prove a purpose

He just said it with love in his heart, I took that love, and cherished his words

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when i said it was dumb, you didnt care though?

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Well, you were the only one who cared

And, frankly, you care about everything

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Its obviously just going to cause distractions, which is anti-village, so I'll just reveal now. Also I'll probably be fairly utr which makes it unlikely anyone will guess at who I am.

<- Eskimo.

Kenny feel free to do what you want.

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wtf is a 3/4 seer?

[/ QUOTE ]The same as it was in ASXV: Seer gets peeks every night except 1, 5, 9.

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firing at gimmicks is just a cop-out d1 vote, like voting for a brand-new-player, or voting for me or bobo or a few others d1

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i kinda agree, but gimmicks are different than noobs.

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i feel like monk is eskimo, and kenny could be anyone but traz.
fine, in

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SHIP IT

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unless he's lying, but whatever

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Like I said, I never intended to hide who I was. Once I had signed up I figured it might add some fun to play readless, but its obviously just annoying people so I'll fully reveal.

Shorty - I pretty much never fake who I am as villager, I probably fake a reasonable amount as wolf tho. Just fwiw.

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There are two gimmicks in this game that I've noticed. To come out firing about them seems silly I believe. It's not as though I'm doing anything in character, with the exception of that one joke reply to clown's joke of a first post.

lynch Nez

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im not sure how hes determining clowns post was a joke

[/ QUOTE ]I don't mean joke "ha ha", I mean joke "what a crazy thing to rant about."

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ahh, so then why wouldnt you vote clown over nez?

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wtf is a 3/4 seer?

[/ QUOTE ]The same as it was in ASXV: Seer gets peeks every night except 1, 5, 9.

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ah, lame imo

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Seriously, I actually took what Chuckles said in the last game to heart, it's dumb and doesn't prove a purpose

He just said it with love in his heart, I took that love, and cherished his words

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when i said it was dumb, you didnt care though?

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Well, you were the only one who cared

And, frankly, you care about everything

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i do, dont i

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ok, enough chit chat
people need to start saying more odd stuff

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basically, it just means both seers must come out d5

they'll have 4 peeks each + 2 of them = 10 confirmeds

by d5, 8 people will be dead, so 13 remain...so 10/13 confirmed will be lock

so the n5/n9 missed peeks don't really affect us

the n1 does tho

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ahh, so then why wouldnt you vote clown over nez?

[/ QUOTE ]Because it's worse to pile onto a 'safe' distraction than it is to initiate one, I'm thinking.

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ahh, so then why wouldnt you vote clown over nez?

[/ QUOTE ]Because it's worse to pile onto a 'safe' distraction than it is to initiate one, I'm thinking.

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Odd way to say this

U agree Scott?

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Like I said, I never intended to hide who I was. Once I had signed up I figured it might add some fun to play readless, but its obviously just annoying people so I'll fully reveal.

Shorty - I pretty much never fake who I am as villager, I probably fake a reasonable amount as wolf tho. Just fwiw.

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well wtf, i thought i would have a cool advantage [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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If Nez is a wolf, Scott's a villager.

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ok, enough chit chat
people need to start saying more odd stuff

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Sure. I don't see why you don't like me claiming villager. I'm simply honest. Look up the turbos I've played.

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ok, enough chit chat
people need to start saying more odd stuff

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Sure. I don't see why you don't like me claiming villager. I'm simply honest. Look up the turbos I've played.

[/ QUOTE ]Well I do agree with clown it's a theoretically great strategy, but the problem is that all you have to do is claim villager ONCE as wolf and the whole thing is shot.

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I have IDed a wolf. Keep the posts comming.

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ahh, so then why wouldnt you vote clown over nez?

[/ QUOTE ]Because it's worse to pile onto a 'safe' distraction than it is to initiate one, I'm thinking.

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Odd way to say this

U agree Scott?

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meh
its more odd that he called clowns post a joke, and didnt vote clown, and his definition of joke would make it appear he would be even more inclined to vote clown

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ok, enough chit chat
people need to start saying more odd stuff

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Sure. I don't see why you don't like me claiming villager. I'm simply honest. Look up the turbos I've played.

[/ QUOTE ]Well I do agree with clown it's a theoretically great strategy, but the problem is that all you have to do is claim villager ONCE as wolf and the whole thing is shot.

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I understand this and have so far never claimed villager first post as a wolf (been wolf three times), so for this game I think it's a great strategy. I will evolve eventually, but I'd like to play my first long game in a straightforward manner.

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I get more and more comfortable with Kenny as my first wolf read

And Supine, don't worry about it, my first inclination as a villager is to say "I'm a villager" as well so everyone knows

But how does everyone know? I've said I'm a villager as a wolf before, so it's moot and means nothing

Unless you are saying you'll never lie to us when you say it, which is, well, kind of bad for your metagame

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I get more and more comfortable with Kenny as my first wolf read

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You always read me as wolf.

Like I said, I'm not hiding who I am, heh.

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Unless you are saying you'll never lie to us when you say it, which is, well, kind of bad for your metagame

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It will of course be useless after a while, but for now it's a viable strategy.

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I get more and more comfortable with Kenny as my first wolf read

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You always read me as wolf.

Like I said, I'm not hiding who I am, heh.

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lol, nice

nevermind, Kenny is probably not a wolf

or at least don't listen to me about him

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Supine: the fact that you now contemplate deviating in the future makes it useless now. Do you see why?

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Well I'm out to work, I presume I will have heavy reading to do tonight. have a nice evening

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or day, w/e americans

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Like I said, I never intended to hide who I was. Once I had signed up I figured it might add some fun to play readless, but its obviously just annoying people so I'll fully reveal.

Shorty - I pretty much never fake who I am as villager, I probably fake a reasonable amount as wolf tho. Just fwiw.

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well wtf, i thought i would have a cool advantage [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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shorty violates his own rule. odd.

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Nez, are you a wolf?
This is important for our masonry

kenny = neil?

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Unless you are saying you'll never lie to us when you say it, which is, well, kind of bad for your metagame

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It will of course be useless after a while, but for now it's a viable strategy.

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what exactly is the strategy?

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Supine: the fact that you now contemplate deviating in the future makes it useless now. Do you see why?

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I see your point, but my way of progression would more likely include stop claiming villager even if I am a villager, to stop claiming villager altogether, until finally alternating between claiming villager and not doing so in a hopefully random and unreadable way. For this game I can assure you my line of true villager claims is unbroken. I'm sure it will become obvious later anyhow.

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kenny = neil?

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah I totally gave it away to let Nez know.

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Unless you are saying you'll never lie to us when you say it, which is, well, kind of bad for your metagame

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It will of course be useless after a while, but for now it's a viable strategy.

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what exactly is the strategy?

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Since you can see that I've been a villager every time I've claimed to be, you would reason it is more likely for me to be a villager this time as well. I do realize I eventually have to change, but see above post.