50 nl QQ tough spot
 

no reads on villain ...

edit// converter messed up the pot size on the turn , dont know why
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($55.55)
Button ($43.25)
SB ($61.15)
Hero ($52.25)
UTG ($17.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.5</font>, Button calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.5</font>, MP calls $4.50, Button folds.

Flop: ($14.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, MP calls $8.

Turn: ($-8) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ???

Re: 50 nl QQ tough spot
 

Bets 2/3 pot. I don't see how the 5 changes things as it's unlikely that he has one

Re: 50 nl QQ tough spot
 

id probably bet turn like 2/3 pot...if villian raises then we are in a pretty tough spot and it might be close to a call/push tho cause i could see some villians doin that w/ like Ax hands thinkin they are actually good here but a push would probably be pretty high variance.

Re: 50 nl QQ tough spot
 

Hmmmn, your stack size makes this quite awkward. There is 30 in the pot and you have 38 behind.
If you bet 2/3rds of the pot that being 20 and opponant pushes then it is 18 to call 68 which is just short of 4-1 but I think he can have pocket pair sich as jacks, maybe even nines a bit so probably bet it anyway. I really wouldn't like having to call the push yet I probably would consideing the odds.

Re: 50 nl QQ tough spot
 

I think you need to bet. If your faced with resistance i think it becomes read dependent. And I probably stack of here, you may be behind but not often IMO.

Re: 50 nl QQ tough spot
 

I think you probably have to shove. The turn doesn't change much. If he doesn't get it in pre with AA/KK then well he allowed you the opportunity to spike.

One thing I'm curious about is why not bet more on the flop here so that shoving isn't so much of an overbet. I'm sure this isn't always a luxury we have, but in this spot the board is so dry if he's calling 8, he's calling more I think.

Re: 50 nl QQ tough spot
 

weak c-bet