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Aero1441 12-01-2007 01:25 AM

100NL: Flopped bottom straight, tough turn/river, linecheck
 
Hero (SB): $108.90
BB: $34.70
UTG: $84.00
UTG+1: $107.98
CO: $99.95
BTN: $106.15

Pre-Flop: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG raises to $2.00, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, BTN folds, Hero calls, BB calls

Flop: ($10.00) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $5.00, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Hero raises to $22.00, BB folds, UTG calls, CO folds

Turn: ($59.00) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $20.00, UTG calls

River: ($99.00) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ?

Do I bet this river and if so how much? And are my other lines good? When I look at this hand, maybe I should have bet the turn more?

jlocdog 12-01-2007 04:35 AM

Re: 100NL: Flopped bottom straight, tough turn/river, linecheck
 
Do not check this flop. A b/3b line will result in you getting your entire stack in no later then the turn and often time right there on the flop. You do not want to mess with the ass end of a straight with this many people seeing a flop.

As played, raise more on your c/r. You are playing this hand like you want these guys to tag along for the ride and magically stack off to you with crap like A7. Make it enough where your turn bet will be a PSB. ~$30-35 sounds right.

As played, Shove that turn. You are never folding this hand at this point. So the best thing to do is look for value from 2pair/trips/combo draws....

As played, I don't know cause I would never have gotten to this point. A c/f sounds good but the day I flop a straight with 100BB and five to the flop and don't have my money in the middle by the turn is the day I my card playing stops.

jlocdog 12-01-2007 02:10 PM

Re: 100NL: Flopped bottom straight, tough turn/river, linecheck
 
Was thinking about it and I switch my river line to....

"As played, I don't know cause I would never have gotten to this point. A c/c sounds good but the day I flop a straight with 100BB and five to the flop and don't have my money in the middle by the turn is the day I my card playing stops."

Jamsym 12-01-2007 02:39 PM

Re: 100NL: Flopped bottom straight, tough turn/river, linecheck
 
I don't mind the flop check raise. I think in a multi way pot like this someone will have connected enough to take a stab.

PLus we're 1st to act and if we lead for $8 people know this is pure strength and fold a lot of hands they would otherwise continue with.

Your turn bet is bad though. Turn should be more like $45.

River card looks horrible at first but villain min raised UTG and then got to the river with his hand so i can't see how a 9 can be in his range.

I still think you have the best hand here nearly always so i shove and give him the tough decision.

ikestoys 12-01-2007 02:42 PM

Re: 100NL: Flopped bottom straight, tough turn/river, linecheck
 
reaaaaaaaaaaads?

Benzooor 12-01-2007 03:08 PM

Re: 100NL: Flopped bottom straight, tough turn/river, linecheck
 
Turn bet is WAAAY too small.

I overbet shove the turn personally.

Agree with your c/r on the flop though, but get it in on the turn like previously stated.

GTSamIAm 12-01-2007 03:18 PM

Re: 100NL: Flopped bottom straight, tough turn/river, linecheck
 
You needed to bet more here on the turn so you could get it all-in by the end of the hand. And you'd be in a good spot for all-in on the river, and give seemingly good odds to snap a bluff. Like the flop c/r.

argy1182 12-01-2007 04:00 PM

Re: 100NL: Flopped bottom straight, tough turn/river, linecheck
 
Don't mind the c/r on the flop, but turn needs to be at least 40 here. You've already made your commitment decision and the idea is to get the chips in the pot. 20 is not accomplishing that. A shove on the turn is acceptable as well.


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