wimpy play against unknown
 

both hands are against the same unknown opponent. should i put in more action?

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5.25BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11.25BB

for the second hand i have the info that he showed Jh9h in the first hand.

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 10.5BB

Re: wimpy play against unknown
 

First hand is fine.

Second hand I raise turn and call down if he juices.

Re: wimpy play against unknown
 

1st hand is okay with me although the only hand I see us behind is QJ. I think all other hands would have 3-bet preflop. Maybe not KQ as we have no idea how he plays.

2nd hand I pop the turn. He is protecting his mediocore hand on the flop and doesn't want the turn checking through. I don't think this is a player we need to be concerned about folding a worse hand.

Re: wimpy play against unknown
 

I think hand one is a good amount of action. Either you're behind or throwing in another raise might get the villain to fold. I wouldn't worry about missing a bet here.

Since now you know villain is a bit of a dope, I also think you should pop the turn again in hand two. He obviously doesn't believe you; raise it up and call down a three-bet. If you're beat you're beat, but villain has shown himself to be dense enough that I'd take a chance on the turn-raise + calldown.

Re: wimpy play against unknown
 

hand 1 standard,

hand 2; I think you have to put in a turn raise here because he's donking with all combo draws here which yields a ton more combos than made straight/better 2 pair hands.

Re: wimpy play against unknown
 

I think you played both hands well against an unknown.

I don't think you should raise turn. You know that villain spewed in the first hand, but also he knows how you played a strong made hand and still he donks the turn after you 3-bet flop. I don't think we have equity enough to raise also I don't think we gain that much from a raise since he would often bet again on river if we call but c/f if we raise.

Re: wimpy play against unknown
 

2nd hand I would at least raise turn, two pair is a monster against these types.

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2nd hand I would at least raise turn, two pair is a monster against these types.

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2nd hand I would at least raise turn, two pair is a monster against these types.

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read the board read the action and don't base your action on 1 previous hand. Claming he's a certain "type" after just 1 hand is very bad IMO.

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2nd hand I would at least raise turn, two pair is a monster against these types.

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read the board read the action and don't base your action on 1 previous hand. Claming he's a certain "type" after just 1 hand is very bad IMO.

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I don't see why this is. He bet/3-bet and checkraised the turn with J9 on a QQ9 brd against an UTG raiser. We're really only scared of JT or KcQc in hand 2. I'd gladly raise again.