Fighting a TAG with top pair
 

Villain is 22.3/18.9/2.74

My image is TAG (25/20/2)

2/4 (6 handed)

Hero is in BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG posts big blind.

UTG checks, 2 folds, Btn raises, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero bets, UTG calls, Btn raises, Hero calls, UTG calls

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG checks, Btn bets, Hero calls, UTG folds.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero bets...

Re: Fighting a TAG with top pair
 

I'd c/r the flop the force out UTG.

River Clarkmeister is meh, I think villain already has you beat on the turn, or has a heart in his hand a high percentage of the time when he bets the turn into two players. He's never folding a better hand on the river. I don't know if river is check/fold, or check/call to induce a bluff, but I'm leaning towards c/f.

Re: Fighting a TAG with top pair
 

You've just turned your hand into a bluff.

Re: Fighting a TAG with top pair
 

[ QUOTE ]
You've just turned your hand into a bluff.

[/ QUOTE ]
I know. That's the point of the bet.

Since I'm calling anyways, why not bet/fold and hope he folds better 1-pair hands with no heart.

Re: Fighting a TAG with top pair
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
You've just turned your hand into a bluff.

[/ QUOTE ]
I know. That's the point of the bet.

Since I'm calling anyways, why not bet/fold and hope he folds better 1-pair hands with no heart.

[/ QUOTE ]
cuz that never works. More value in him checking AJ/KJ behind imo.

More importantly, why did you donk/call the flop. I think you should have:

a) 3-bet pf (debateable)
b) if you didn't, c/r flop
c) if you donked, 3b flop
d) as played, c/c the river if he doesn't vb a lot, else c/f.

Re: Fighting a TAG with top pair
 

i hate flop call as well, this is a must c/r to knock out UTG, the rest of the hand i dont mind but this board is going to crush u with a few opponents

Re: Fighting a TAG with top pair
 

Yah, flop is def. bad. Should have c/r. Given btn's stats should I really consider 3betting pre?

As played on the flop, does anyone of you fold the turn?

Re: Fighting a TAG with top pair
 

Why do you say "since I'm calling anyways"? I'm not calling a river bet. You're calling to snap off black TT turning his hand into a bluff?

River bluff is so-so, player-dependent (obv.). Your tougher tags never fold better here, but some weak 24/16 types will automuck the river a lot here.

No, don't fold the turn as played.

Re: Fighting a TAG with top pair
 

why are you calling a river bet?

As played, I think you should fold the turn, as you have 5 outs or 0 outs.

On the river, you are losing, it's time to c/f

Re: Fighting a TAG with top pair
 

[ QUOTE ]

On the river, you are losing, it's time to c/f

[/ QUOTE ]
But I have top pair [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Gotta start finding c/folds on rivers more. Such a big leak of mine.