Re: Short Stack Play
 

It doesn't matter if you're in a coinflip situation if the pot is paying you enough of an overlay. If you are 60-40 and the pot lays 1.2-1, you will profit and that's all there is to it. In addition, you will often win more than that because some players tend to play too loosely against shorter stacks.

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NO CALLING/LIMPING!!!!

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This is way oversimplified. There are situations where a shortstack can very well limp in preflop.

Re: Short Stack Play
 

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It doesn't matter if you're in a coinflip situation if the pot is paying you enough of an overlay. If you are 60-40 and the pot lays 1.2-1, you will profit and that's all there is to it. In addition, you will often win more than that because some players tend to play too loosely against shorter stacks.

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NO CALLING/LIMPING!!!!

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This is way oversimplified. There are situations where a shortstack can very well limp in preflop.

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I said it because ShortStackPlay to me in a tourney is 10BB or less. In this case, it would be stupid to limp with barely any fold equity.

In a cash game, limping is stupid, being ANY stack, deep or short.

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In a cash game, limping is stupid, being ANY stack, deep or short.

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This is just plain wrong.

Re: Short Stack Play
 

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In a cash game, limping is stupid, being ANY stack, deep or short.

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This is just plain wrong.

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Too many limpers Equity

Re: Short Stack Play
 

Playing shortstack doesn't preclude you from limping if you have a situation where you're getting decent odds to call, but a raise is risky or ineffective. Generally you'll be more aggressive when playing hands since you'll be doing it less often, so you'll be limping relatively infrequently, but it's still the best option from time to time.

If you're $40 deep in a 1/2NL game, imagine you're holding A4s on the button after 3 limpers, and the blinds aren't especially aggressive. Folding is too tight here, and raising is more likely to get you in trouble than not.

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Playing shortstack doesn't preclude you from limping if you have a situation where you're getting decent odds to call, but a raise is risky or ineffective. Generally you'll be more aggressive when playing hands since you'll be doing it less often, so you'll be limping relatively infrequently, but it's still the best option from time to time.

If you're $40 deep in a 1/2NL game, imagine you're holding A4s on the button after 3 limpers, and the blinds aren't especially aggressive. Folding is too tight here, and raising is more likely to get you in trouble than not.



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$40 isnt deep at all in a 200NL. I suggest refilling at that point. But anyways, raising to about $6 or $8 would be good in that situation, throwing out 1 or 2 of the limpers, either way after the flop you have position, and most people fold to a c-bet anyways, so it's all good.

I wouldn't blame anybody for folding in that situation either if you have any reads on the limpers.

Re: Short Stack Play
 

A subtle effect that makes it attractive to be shortstack at a table of deepstack players, is the implicit collusion that occurs between you and all other players. If you are all-in preflop with your short stack, further betting of the opponents on the flop/turn/river help eliminating other players and increase your EV, whilst you don't need to put any of your chips at risk.

A said before by various posters: short stack strategy is dull but effective.

Johannes

Re: Short Stack Play
 

Taking short-stack strategy to the -hypothetical- extreme of nano-stacks, it can be shown that such strategy is unexploitable and strictly EV positive. Simply because some folding is bound to happen after the short stack has gone all-in, the deep stacks are collectively in an EV negative position, no matter how many WSOP bracelets they carry with them...

As the shortness of the stacks assumed are well below the minimum buy-in generally imposed at cash tables, this analysis can not be turned into $$$s. However, if one accepts that nano stacks are unbeatable, it is difficult to accept that buying in for more than the minimum would make your game less exploitable.

http://www.google.com/base/a/1121639...85863830241740

happy to hear your views...

Johannes