PLO8 $200: Horrible Turn card
 

How bad is my call on the turn? Any comments regarding the river are also welcome.

Villain's stats: 36/2.4/1.59

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $516.53
CO: $119.10
Button: $220.14
Hero: $228.30
BB: $13.17

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5.7</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($23.1, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $21.95</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $3.47</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $93.27</font>, Hero calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($213.11, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $33.51, Sidepot 1: $179.6)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $127.33</font>, UTG calls.

Re: PLO8 $200: Horrible Turn card
 

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Turn: 2[h] ($23.1, 3 players) - Hero Pots, UTG Repots, still a big bet left

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Dude, the turn killed your hand. Give it up.
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Re: PLO8 $200: Horrible Turn card
 

The pot is three-way on the turn and your turn bet is a pure bluff, despite your weak two pair. Your problems are even more compounded by the fact that there BB is hopelessly short-stacked. Give up on the turn.

Re: PLO8 $200: Horrible Turn card
 

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The pot is three-way on the turn and your turn bet is a pure bluff, despite your weak two pair.

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But the additional flush draw made it so hard to let this hand go on the turn.

BTW, on which hands do you put villain?

Re: PLO8 $200: Horrible Turn card
 

After the flop, I put villain on holding A3xx / A4xx with a likely king or with some gutshot spades/hearts or straight possibilities. And is not folding the turn to a pot-sized bet.

Re: PLO8 $200: Horrible Turn card
 

If anything, I would have checked and see if you could have gotten the free card on the river to make the high. With 3 way action, it is very likely that someone has an A3 hand and wouldn't fold to a pot size bet on the turn.

Personally, I check and if someone bets the pot let it go. Two pair may get you the high if you don't hit the flush. But you are certainly getting freerolled for the scoop.

Re: PLO8 $200: Horrible Turn card
 

It would be hard to put a villain with a VPIP of 36 on a hand that crushes you. So I don’t think a C/C is terrible but the pot is small and you are OOP so I would lean towards a fold. On the other hand IMHO leading with a PSB was a total spew.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3789375
pokenum -o8 9h 2s 6c as - ah 3s kc qd -- ks 8s 6h 2h
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 40 enumerated boards containing Ks 8s 6h 2h
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As 2s 6c 9h 0 28 12 0 0 12 3 0.369
3s Kc Qd Ah 9 12 28 0 37 0 3 0.631

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3789391
pokenum -o8 9h 2s 6c as - ah 3h kc 4d -- ks 8s 6h 2h
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 40 enumerated boards containing Ks 8s 6h 2h
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As 2s 6c 9h 0 22 18 0 0 14 0 0.275
Kc 4d Ah 3h 18 18 22 0 40 0 0 0.725

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3789407
pokenum -o8 9h 2s 6c as - ah 3d kc 5d -- ks 8s 6h 2h
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 40 enumerated boards containing Ks 8s 6h 2h
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As 2s 6c 9h 0 26 14 0 0 14 0 0.325
Kc 5d 3d Ah 14 14 26 0 40 0 0 0.675

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3789400
pokenum -o8 9h 2s 6c as - ah 3d kc 2d -- ks 8s 6h 2h
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 40 enumerated boards containing Ks 8s 6h 2h
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As 2s 6c 9h 0 10 30 0 0 12 3 0.144
Kc 3d 2d Ah 28 30 10 0 37 0 3 0.856

Re: PLO8 $200: Horrible Turn card
 

I simulated a few hands in propokertools.

On the turn, A269 has 39.85% equity against any A3. If I broaden the range to include any A4, the equity is now 39.26%.