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timmay28 11-16-2007 01:47 AM

Lay AA here?
 
$10 midnight madness. Too early for real read on villian.

I figured with him potting the flop, he already has a made hand of some sort and not a draw, so I decide to call rather than shove and see if he'd slow down on the turn.


Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB (t2600)
UTG (t3345)
UTG+1 (t4035)
MP1 (t1265)
MP2 (t4305)
MP3 (t6515)
CO (t1295)
Hero (t2690)
SB (t1540)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t160, UTG calls t160, MP2 calls t160.

Flop: (t820) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t820</font>, Hero calls t820, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: (t2460) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t2460</font>, Hero

BrandiFan 11-16-2007 02:03 AM

Re: Lay AA here?
 
Shove flop. As played, I make a crying call.

Wesker1982 11-16-2007 02:28 AM

Re: Lay AA here?
 
I would have shoved on the flop. The Q on the turn sucks, but he could easily have AJ or KJ, only thing I would be worried about here is QJ since people love that hand. I would call though, especially considering the pot size compared to your stack.

DeuceSeven 11-16-2007 03:16 AM

Re: Lay AA here?
 
Hero shoves flop. As played i guess you call.

ClutchCity 11-16-2007 03:35 AM

Re: Lay AA here?
 
I can't see a reason for ever calling on that flop. A straightening board like that with all of the fish that play in the Midnight Madness is one of the last flops you wanna see. If you think he has a made hand like two pair, fold. I would shove that every time, though. I would never ever call, however. Push or fold.

OrrLives 11-16-2007 06:33 AM

Re: Lay AA here?
 
As others have said, raise all-in on flop. Why did you just call? You left yourself with only ~1600!!

You have ~1600 left on the turn and are getting ~4000:1600 = 5:2 on your money... I wouldn't be able to fold unless it was a satellite or I had a strong read.

TheFoxNL 11-16-2007 09:44 AM

Re: Lay AA here?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Shove flop. As played, I make a crying call.

[/ QUOTE ]

Pokerfarian 11-16-2007 09:47 AM

Re: Lay AA here?
 
Shove flop. There's not much point seeing if he'll slow down on turn because we're calling on the turn getting 5:2 anyway, we just have too much equity against his range which has to include some sort've TP or draw hands. Definitely calling turn despite it being a fairly bad card.

Win.by.TKo 11-16-2007 11:32 AM

Re: Lay AA here?
 
I would call here, but I would not like it. MP2 called $160 into a $660 pot. He could most definitely be playing with T9 here, but with the odds being offered, there is little choice.

halpgr 11-16-2007 11:56 AM

Re: Lay AA here?
 
Make it 240 preflop. Raise all in on the flop.


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