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DavidNB 11-21-2007 05:18 PM

AK suited pre flop
 
Its a step tourney, top 2 advance, 3rd gets a replay and 4th goes back a step. My bets were getting repesct with others folding and thought I would simply try a call. UTG had been playing tight, first time I saw him go all in. AS the decsion comes to me I know the short stack is calling the all in and I think I'm up against maybe a pair from UTG and a ace high from SB


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1450)
CO (t2970)
Hero (t2705)
SB (t1220)
BB (t600)
UTG (t2065)
MP1 (t2490)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t300, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t2065</font>,

Niggel 11-21-2007 05:33 PM

Re: AK suited pre flop
 
I fold here especially if it is a step tourney and if UTG is tigh (I assume he is seat 6). I think this is pretty standart. The min-raise looks suspicous and a guy who raises UTG and then pushes after a reraise seems pretty strong (QQ+, AK).

If UTG is really tight you could even find a fold after his UTG-Raise.

DavidNB 11-21-2007 05:46 PM

Re: AK suited pre flop
 
I edited in the changes for UTG and SB

SteveM 11-21-2007 06:06 PM

Re: AK suited pre flop
 
Given the structure of this tourney, your reads, and your non-desperate stack size I can find a fold here.

DavidNB 11-21-2007 09:42 PM

Re: AK suited pre flop
 

I'm not results based, prefer knowing I made the right decsion

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t300, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t2065</font>, Hero folds, SB calls t620 (All-In).

Flop: (t3685) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t3685) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t3685) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2840

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Qh Qc (one pair, queens).
UTG has Js As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: UTG wins t3685. </font>

RexWoo 11-22-2007 05:36 AM

Re: AK suited pre flop
 
I push preflop the first time. t450 in the middle is quite good.

DevinLake 11-22-2007 05:45 AM

Re: AK suited pre flop
 
I don't think I can call off &gt;10% of my stack with AKs and then fold.

That said, seems like a pretty easy value shove the first time.

DavidNB 11-22-2007 12:41 PM

Re: AK suited pre flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
I push preflop the first time. t450 in the middle is quite good.

[/ QUOTE ]Had thought the samething,thought i would try just a call. I had been raising every strong hand I had, wanted to mix up the play. Had I gone against 1 player I would of called preflop but I knew I would be up against 2 players. Not good odds when I'm on a draw. Had the UTG simply reraised an amount that would put the SB all in I would of called I think. When he instead reraised all in I put him on a strong hand. Against two other players I thought I would lose 1 or 2 outs between them.

I do seem to run into a type of play where I flat call and then have a difficult decsion after the flop. MNaybe I should change my play and stop that type of play and maybe just always value bet my strong hands and of course bet bluffs preflop knowing I have a tight imagaed.

DavidNB 11-22-2007 12:54 PM

Re: AK suited pre flop
 
same as my other post. Simply tried to mix up my play

drzen 11-22-2007 07:40 PM

Re: AK suited pre flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
same as my other post. Simply tried to mix up my play

[/ QUOTE ]

Mixing up your play is a waste of time against players who won't notice. For those who do notice, they won't see you play the same hand twice often enough for it to matter. A lot of the time that you play AKs, you don't show it down anyway.


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