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n4rf 10-30-2007 10:22 AM

QQ overpair, 3-flush made on turn - How did I play it?
 
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($16.30)
SB ($4)
BB ($12.80)
UTG ($2.05)
Hero ($9.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.45</font>, Button calls $0.40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($1) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.8</font>, Button calls $0.80.

Turn: ($2.60) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $1.6</font>, Hero calls $1.60.

River: ($5.80) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $3.9</font>, Hero calls $3.90.

Final Pot: $13.60

I Check the turn for pot control, but I do not put him on a flush draw. I only have 20 hands on the guy, playing 20/10, which means nothing. I assumed he thought I was cbetting with air, where I looked really weak on the turn, and on the river.

iheartponeez 10-30-2007 10:42 AM

Re: QQ overpair, 3-flush made on turn - How did I play it?
 
You have to bet that turn, then fold to a hard raise or, if called, check the river.

n4rf 10-30-2007 10:46 AM

Re: QQ overpair, 3-flush made on turn - How did I play it?
 
If I'm called on turn, check river, and he bets, what do I do then? I wanted to keep the pot smaller, not build one since I didn't have a monster hand. I realize I didn't beat many hands at all, but I thought that villain is maybe capable of assuming weakness and pouncing on it.

Profish2285 10-30-2007 10:49 AM

Re: QQ overpair, 3-flush made on turn - How did I play it?
 
bet turn, 1/2 pot/fold river. Whats this guys AF? If its high I like a c/c on river better.

djj6835 10-30-2007 10:50 AM

Re: QQ overpair, 3-flush made on turn - How did I play it?
 
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If I'm called on turn, check river, and he bets, what do I do then? I wanted to keep the pot smaller, not build one since I didn't have a monster hand. I realize I didn't beat many hands at all, but I thought that villain is maybe capable of assuming weakness and pouncing on it.



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B/f the turn if called bet this river.

djj6835 10-30-2007 10:52 AM

Re: QQ overpair, 3-flush made on turn - How did I play it?
 
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bet turn, 1/2 pot/fold river. Whats this guys AF? If its high I like a c/c on river better.



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C/c river is bad even with a high af. If we bet this turn and villain calls the majority of villains range is going to be marginal showdownable hands.

Rednas 10-30-2007 10:53 AM

Re: QQ overpair, 3-flush made on turn - How did I play it?
 
b/f turn, c/c river.
You don't want to give him a free card, because there are a lot of ugly rivercards (club, A, K, T, 2)

djj6835 10-30-2007 10:57 AM

Re: QQ overpair, 3-flush made on turn - How did I play it?
 
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You have to bet that turn, then fold to a hard raise or, if called, check the river.

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Are you check folding the river?

Profish2285 10-30-2007 11:00 AM

Re: QQ overpair, 3-flush made on turn - How did I play it?
 
If his river AF is very high, then why isnt he capable of betting with worse on the end?

n4rf 10-30-2007 11:04 AM

Re: QQ overpair, 3-flush made on turn - How did I play it?
 
Only 20 hands on him, his total AF was 2 however.


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