just a question i want answering
 

in this hand i pretty damn sure he has heart draw and probably AA, is there any point putting out river bet, small bet for value? i am pretty sure answer is no, but just want this clarified

PokerStars Game #13181765051: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/11/11 - 17:17:57 (ET)
Table 'Eri II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: stonewal ($460.40 in chips)
Seat 2: CKOKE4ME ($226.50 in chips)
Seat 3: gs08bjohnson ($200 in chips)
Seat 4: poyraz123 ($106.90 in chips)
Seat 5: Snort4eva ($499.85 in chips)
Seat 6: LiqGen ($332.45 in chips)
Snort4eva: posts small blind $1
LiqGen: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Snort4eva [8d Jd Qd 7c]
stonewal: folds
CKOKE4ME: calls $2
gs08bjohnson: raises $7 to $9
poyraz123: folds
Snort4eva: calls $8
LiqGen: folds
CKOKE4ME: calls $7
*** FLOP *** [8h 2h Qs]
Snort4eva: checks
CKOKE4ME: checks
gs08bjohnson: bets $22
Snort4eva: calls $22
CKOKE4ME: folds
*** TURN *** [8h 2h Qs] [6s]
Snort4eva: bets $70
gs08bjohnson: calls $70
*** RIVER *** [8h 2h Qs 6s] [7s]
Snort4eva: checks
gs08bjohnson: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Snort4eva: shows [8d Jd Qd 7c] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
gs08bjohnson: mucks hand
Snort4eva collected $210 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $213 | Rake $3
Board [8h 2h Qs 6s 7s]
Seat 1: stonewal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: CKOKE4ME folded on the Flop
Seat 3: gs08bjohnson mucked [7h Ah Ts 8c]
Seat 4: poyraz123 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Re: just a question i want answering
 

If you're sure about it, then do it, he may not call but it has the added benefit of him not being able to see your hand.

Re: just a question i want answering
 

maybe some value,
if he has AA he might put you on a flush draw.

a bet deterrs a bluff and makes it easier to fold a raise.

but its borderline, checking is standard.

Re: just a question i want answering
 

I would say if he is a bluffer and you don't really want to check call a small bet is a good idea.

Re: just a question i want answering
 

I think it's best to check to induce the bluff here and then call down, assuming you don't have a read that he never or rarely bluffs. If your opponent is an infrequent bluffer (and preferably, is a big call station), then a half-pot or so blocking bet is good.

Re: just a question i want answering
 

AA hands are not turning their hands into bluffs.

Re: just a question i want answering
 

If you put him on AA a check has more value in that he may try to bluff the str8 cards. Also, if you are going to check/call the flop and then lead the turn when a blank hits, I think that you may as well put a check/raise in on the flop and look to get much more of your stack in on the turn, since you do after all put him on the draw.

Re: just a question i want answering
 

betting here is pretty awful unless you really plan on calling a raise

Re: just a question i want answering
 

if he has 9TJ in his hand and was drawing to the straight, he got there on the river and is likely to call your value bet. if it wasn't for that, i think it might be safe to throw out a little bet. if you check, you will probably have to call a fairly large bet if he rivered a flush or a straight. by betting out less than that fairly large bet, you save yourself money because he is unlikely to raise with a middlish flush or a straight.

still, in this particular instance i think the best play is to check and then if he bets, rely on how you've seen him play in the past (if he is aggressive and capable of bluffs, you'll probably call, otherwise fold).

Re: just a question i want answering
 

check-call better, might pick up a bluff