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Exsubmariner 08-30-2007 01:55 AM

The World Without Oil
 
Good evening all you internet la-la-landers. I allowed myself to get a little annoyed earlier at the ever present politics forum backdrop of holier-than-thou-do-gooder-the-US-is-evil-regardless-of-the-realities crowd. Silly of me.

In particular I was annoyed at a post by a clearly clueless individual about how the US kills innocent people everyday for oil. So I thought about what that individual's life would be without oil if he suddenly got his wish and the human race had a moral epiphany and decided it was better that society destroy itself and decend into the stone age lest some unnamed innocent should die directly or indirectly because of civilizations unconscionable use of fossil fuel.

Well, it turns out that there is a website out there where just such a scenario is being thought of.

Here is their homepage and FAQ.

So, as you sit in front of your PC made out of oil, smoking your weed which was transported to you via oil, eating your bag of chips that was grown from corn sprayed with pesticide and packaged all from oil and drink your beer which was probably distilled with heat made from oil, I'd like you to ponder just how good your life is because of oil.

More pertinent to the discussion is just how much of that P-O-T, food, computer, car, and booze are you willing to put down because it is so evil to use oil?

ThaSaltCracka 08-30-2007 01:57 AM

Re: The World Without Oil
 
what kind of oils?

tolbiny 08-30-2007 02:04 AM

Re: The World Without Oil
 
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In particular I was annoyed at a post by a clearly clueless individual about how the US kills innocent people everyday for oil.

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Since people with oil have more than they could ever use themselves and are very willing to sell it, and people in the US have tons of money to actually buy it, why is it that we have to choose between killing people for oil and not having oil at all?

Nielsio 08-30-2007 08:04 AM

Re: The World Without Oil
 
[ QUOTE ]
Good evening all you internet la-la-landers. I allowed myself to get a little annoyed earlier at the ever present politics forum backdrop of holier-than-thou-do-gooder-the-US-is-evil-regardless-of-the-realities crowd. Silly of me.

In particular I was annoyed at a post by a clearly clueless individual about how the US kills innocent people everyday for oil. So I thought about what that individual's life would be without oil if he suddenly got his wish and the human race had a moral epiphany and decided it was better that society destroy itself and decend into the stone age lest some unnamed innocent should die directly or indirectly because of civilizations unconscionable use of fossil fuel.

Well, it turns out that there is a website out there where just such a scenario is being thought of.

Here is their homepage and FAQ.

So, as you sit in front of your PC made out of oil, smoking your weed which was transported to you via oil, eating your bag of chips that was grown from corn sprayed with pesticide and packaged all from oil and drink your beer which was probably distilled with heat made from oil, I'd like you to ponder just how good your life is because of oil.

More pertinent to the discussion is just how much of that P-O-T, food, computer, car, and booze are you willing to put down because it is so evil to use oil?

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Voluntary and peaceful trade (i.e. the market) must be crushed and murder, rape, theft, extortion, are all justified..

http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/evil/saigon.jpg
(unnamed innocent)


..because:

[x] Oil

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MidGe 08-30-2007 08:12 AM

Re: The World Without Oil
 
Exsubmariner,

I don't understand why you are bringing this up in this way. The US has oil, sufficient for itself, it simply prefers to pilfer other nations oil and keep its oil in reserve! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

adios 08-30-2007 08:23 AM

Re: The World Without Oil
 
World without cheap oil actually. Plenty of sources for the long haul, just expensive to get oil from some of the sources.

SNOWBALL 08-30-2007 08:28 AM

Re: The World Without Oil
 
HOLY FALSE DICHOTOMIES BATMAN!

Oil isn't the issue. CONTROLLING oil is the issue. The USA wants the ability to cut off the oil supply of other nations, which is HUGE leverage in war.

I mean, how do you think switzerland gets their oil? They pay for it.

Ron Burgundy 08-30-2007 11:34 AM

Re: The World Without Oil
 
OP,

When did anyone ever say that oil was bad and that we should stop using oil altogether? You're responding to statements that have never been made. How can you even have an argument if you have no idea what the opposing viewpoint is?

NewTeaBag 08-30-2007 12:29 PM

Re: The World Without Oil
 
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FTW!

Exsubmariner 08-30-2007 03:18 PM

Re: The World Without Oil
 
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http://www.mbe.doe.gov/me70/manhatta...ssionLarge.gif

FTW!

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Then the US will be evil because we'll be waging wars for Uranium.


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